lycée généraliste

09:16 Jul 1, 2010
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French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Education / Pedagogy
French term or phrase: lycée généraliste
Hi

I know this seems easy but... !

The context is an arts workshop for students (roughly aged 15 to 17). These students are:

"issus de lycées généralistes, techniques, professionels et d'établissements d'enseignement adapté et dispositif pédagogique d'intégration."

In this context (press pack for an arts venue) I don't feel I need to go into too much detail as the journalists receiving the info will be in the field of arts rather than education.

My idea is to say these students are from "??, vocational and special education needs schools" (or just special education schools - the EREA are for students with disabilities and/or learning difficulties).

My question is, what would a lycée généraliste be as opposed to a lycée technique (vocational)? I'm not happy with "general" as a translation but is there another solution?

Sorry, long question!
Sandra Petch
Local time: 16:37


Summary of answers provided
3 +3all types of secondary schools
Sheila Wilson
3 +1university-preparatory lycée (high school)
MatthewLaSon
3 +1all types of secondary schools, ranging from conventional to special needs
Leslie Marcus
3secondary school
Estelle Demontrond-Box
3(regular) secondary/high school
Jocelyne S


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(regular) secondary/high school


Explanation:
A "lycée généraliste" is where you study the standard "filières" in France (S - science, L - literature, etc.).

Here you could probably just use "secondary schools" as the "regular" is implicit if they are next to "vocational", etc.

Best,
Jocelyne

Jocelyne S
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Local time: 16:37
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secondary school


Explanation:
Bonjour Sandra! Peut-être garder secondary school (si UK) tout simplement ou pourquoi pas comme tu le suggères "general secondary school" http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/39/58/1925572.pdf
ou peut-être
"traditional".
Bonne chance!

Estelle Demontrond-Box
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Local time: 02:37
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all types of secondary schools, ranging from conventional to special needs


Explanation:
Don't you think you could go with something like "all types of secondary schools, ranging from conventional to special needs"?
If you just say special needs, you seem to be excluding "ordinary" students, and even makes me think it is only for "slow" students.

Leslie Marcus
France
Local time: 16:37
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Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Leslie - This might overshadow the emphasis on the type of subjects studied (vocational vs. "academic") although one of the types of schools named is indeed "special needs" (or "additional needs" as I saw it written no later than yesterday in a totally different context!).


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agree  Loperhet (X)
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all types of secondary schools


Explanation:
I would rework it to read that these students "come from all types of secondary schools: academic, vocational and special".

Sheila Wilson
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Local time: 15:37
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: Very much in line with my own thinking; let's not leave out 'technical' as well!
13 mins
  -> Thanks, Tony.

agree  sueaberwoman: A good solution! Clear, natural-sounding English. Mainstream is also sometimes used for "généraliste".
6 hrs
  -> Thanks.

agree  Tally Fenney
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  -> Thanks
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
university-preparatory lycée (high school)


Explanation:
Hello,

There are two main types of lycées in France: university-preparatory (généraliste) and vocational (professionel/technique)

http://www.french-property.com/guides/france/public-services...

I hope this helps.

MatthewLaSon
Local time: 10:37
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Claire N.
9 hrs
  -> Thank you, Clanola!

neutral  Sheila Wilson: That's not really what the link says - potential graduates normally go to lycée, but very many lycéens don't go to uni. // No, it's to prepare the Bac - the standard entry requirement to uni but also to other training and, importantly, to many careers
15 hrs
  -> But Sheila, it's to prepare students to go to uni, whether they go or not. The other one is strictly vocational.
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