ardoise

English translation: menu displayed on blackboard

17:09 Dec 11, 2019
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Food & Drink / Restaurants
French term or phrase: ardoise
Hello

I simply need to know if in sentences like:

XXX offre une ***ardoise*** aux plats inspirés,

whether the etymology of "ardoise" in catering (restaurants) goes back to the slate blackboards outside restaurants or the "slate plates" that food was sometimes served on.
i can find references to both (slate = blackboard and plate) but none that says specifically which one when it comes to restaurants.

Thanks
SafeTex
France
Local time: 02:49
English translation:menu displayed on blackboard
Explanation:
Yes, it's certainly that!

Places that use an erasable blackboard system tend therefore to have a more flexible menu that may change from day to day, rather than those 'posher' restaurants with exquisitely-printed menus that tells you they don't change them very often...

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Note added at 6 hrs (2019-12-11 23:42:54 GMT)
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I think here it is being used as metonymy — the 'blackboard' to represent 'la carte' (remember the inversion of 'carte' and 'menu' between FR and EN!) — or mor generally, the 'food'; just as we use 'table' as metonymy for 'restaurant'.

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Note added at 8 hrs (2019-12-12 02:00:08 GMT)
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A sorely-missed well-wisher very kindly offers the following comments:

"Found these on the web, in case ... Asker is looking
for a translation as much as an explanation:

From traditional hot and cold bar food to A CHALKBOARD OF DELICIOUS CHEF'S SPECIALS and dishes of the week

With a CHALKBOARD OF DELICIOUS LUNCH OPTIONS as well as freshly baked treats, it's hard to leave Jason unhappy

smack in the middle of the bar and restaurant area -- trendy decor but more important, a CHALKBOARD OF FABULOUS WINES by the glass at very reasonable prices

Then we all ordered delectable desserts from a CHALKBOARD OF TEMPTING OFFERINGS.

Despite a CHALKBOARD OF TEMPTING SUNDAY MORNING BRUNCH SPECIALS, I opted to go with the regular menu's Mexican Omelette with a toasted raisin bagel w/ cream

The references to "regular menu" (opposite) and "chef's specials" and "dishes of the week" certainly support your comment about variability."

Thanks, old friend, for still looking out for us!
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menu displayed on blackboard


Explanation:
Yes, it's certainly that!

Places that use an erasable blackboard system tend therefore to have a more flexible menu that may change from day to day, rather than those 'posher' restaurants with exquisitely-printed menus that tells you they don't change them very often...

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Note added at 6 hrs (2019-12-11 23:42:54 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

I think here it is being used as metonymy — the 'blackboard' to represent 'la carte' (remember the inversion of 'carte' and 'menu' between FR and EN!) — or mor generally, the 'food'; just as we use 'table' as metonymy for 'restaurant'.

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Note added at 8 hrs (2019-12-12 02:00:08 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

A sorely-missed well-wisher very kindly offers the following comments:

"Found these on the web, in case ... Asker is looking
for a translation as much as an explanation:

From traditional hot and cold bar food to A CHALKBOARD OF DELICIOUS CHEF'S SPECIALS and dishes of the week

With a CHALKBOARD OF DELICIOUS LUNCH OPTIONS as well as freshly baked treats, it's hard to leave Jason unhappy

smack in the middle of the bar and restaurant area -- trendy decor but more important, a CHALKBOARD OF FABULOUS WINES by the glass at very reasonable prices

Then we all ordered delectable desserts from a CHALKBOARD OF TEMPTING OFFERINGS.

Despite a CHALKBOARD OF TEMPTING SUNDAY MORNING BRUNCH SPECIALS, I opted to go with the regular menu's Mexican Omelette with a toasted raisin bagel w/ cream

The references to "regular menu" (opposite) and "chef's specials" and "dishes of the week" certainly support your comment about variability."

Thanks, old friend, for still looking out for us!


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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Eliza Hall: I agree this is literally what it's referring to, but it's being used in the figurative sense (=menu), not the literal (=blackboard with the day's menu written on it). So I would just translate it as menu.
29 mins
  -> Of course! But Asker was seeking confirmation of the underlying meaning, which is what I have given — as well as adding a bit of cultural background to explain why it is really more subtle than just 'menu'

agree  Wolf Draeger
3 hrs
  -> Thanks, Wolf!

agree  Stephanie Benoist
3 hrs
  -> Merci, Stephanie !

agree  Carol Gullidge: My experience is that the blackboard displays the day’s specials, but we’d need far more context to know whether this is what is being referred to. Euphemistically.
5 hrs
  -> Thanks, Carol!

agree  Ph_B (X)
13 hrs
  -> Merci, Ph_B !

agree  David Hayes
15 hrs
  -> Thanks, David!

agree  B D Finch: Round here, the "ardoise" displays the fixed price menu of the day. Other options might be available à la carte.// I don't think we have any top-notch restos here :(
1 day 19 hrs
  -> Thanks, B! Yes, here too... but there's also a kind of 'inverted snobbery' in which top-notch restaurants use this technique to supposedly show their menus are very 'current', produce too fresh to warrant a printed menu...
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