les décisionnaires

English translation: not for grading -Senegal reference

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French term or phrase:les décisionnaires
English translation:not for grading -Senegal reference
Entered by: Adjoa des Bordes

01:10 Nov 15, 2005
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Government / Politics / governance
French term or phrase: les décisionnaires
Document is on the country Gabon, deals with recruitment in the public service with three categories of staff the "fonctionnaires", "contractuels" and "decisionnaires", who are last on the scale and whose job situation is not secure. May be local parlance?
Adjoa des Bordes
Local time: 08:27
not for grading -Senegal reference
Explanation:
5.2 Enseignants décisionnaires

Les décisionnaires sont titulaires de diplômes professionnels mais, frappés par la limite d'âge (35 ans révolus), ne peuvent pas satisfaire aux conditions de titularisation dans la fonction publique.

A titre dérogatoire, les agents remplissant certaines conditions (nombre d'enfants, ') peuvent bénéficier d'un recul de la limite d'âge jusqu'à 40 ans (Loi n°2002-08 du 22 février 2002).

http://www.education.gouv.sn/personnels/recrutement.html
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RHELLER
United States
Local time: 02:27
Grading comment
Thanks, this is the answer and reference that most explained what I needed to know. Should be graded I believe.
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3 +4not for grading -Senegal reference
RHELLER
5The "Deciding Committee" -->Those empowered to take/make decisions.
DFBEN
5 -1decision makers
Anna Maria Augustine (X)
3laborers
mireille aboumrad


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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
decision makers


Explanation:
But I am certain this is local speak given the context as we would have this term in management, I would think. In any case "fonctionnaires" in France are usually not there or asleep or on holiday, or at lunch or at the doctor's but certainly rarely at work and you can never get hold of one. Unfortunately 75% of the population are civil servants.
Maybe it is not a stable life long job in Gabon.

Anna Maria Augustine (X)
France
Local time: 09:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  mireille aboumrad: but how can somebody who is a decision maker have a job that is not secure or be the last on the scale?
6 mins
  -> how should I know what they do in Gabon and how would you know either?

disagree  David Goward: extremely unlikely in this context, I feel, where "décisionnaires" are bottom of a 3-tier system.
3 hrs
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36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
les decisionnaires
laborers


Explanation:
it might be local parlance totalk about the laborers who have to do the work that the contractors will give them

mireille aboumrad
United States
Local time: 04:27
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Anna Maria Augustine (X): hardly !
25 mins
  -> hence my confidence level, i didn't use a 5
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
"les decisionnaires"
not for grading -Senegal reference


Explanation:
5.2 Enseignants décisionnaires

Les décisionnaires sont titulaires de diplômes professionnels mais, frappés par la limite d'âge (35 ans révolus), ne peuvent pas satisfaire aux conditions de titularisation dans la fonction publique.

A titre dérogatoire, les agents remplissant certaines conditions (nombre d'enfants, ') peuvent bénéficier d'un recul de la limite d'âge jusqu'à 40 ans (Loi n°2002-08 du 22 février 2002).

http://www.education.gouv.sn/personnels/recrutement.html


RHELLER
United States
Local time: 02:27
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 14
Grading comment
Thanks, this is the answer and reference that most explained what I needed to know. Should be graded I believe.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  David Goward: I think you've hit the nail on the head. Err, why NFG?
3 hrs
  -> thanks David, but I really don't know what to call them

agree  Jocelyne S: Yes, this looks most likely...Perhaps some sort of "junior" civil servant (but hard to convey the age limit side of things)
4 hrs
  -> good idea JS :-) I'm sure "junior" helps the asker

agree  Carlos Segura: Would "interim" convey some of the meaning?
13 hrs
  -> thanks Carlos! one must be very careful with these terms; each country probably has its own complex designation for titles (one of the reasons why I didn't dare just pick one:-)

agree  DFBEN: Thanks Rita . I have learned a new meaning for this word and in that context it is definitely a neologism. Merci.
8 days
  -> Senegal may have their own local terminology; look at the difference between NY and Montreal :-)
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1 day 1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
les décisionnaires
The "Deciding Committee" -->Those empowered to take/make decisions.


Explanation:
More than likely political and traditionnal authorities making decisions on a joint project. Their decisions probably supersede those of the civil servants because they have political or traditional clout.

DFBEN
Local time: 04:27
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Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in EnglishEnglish
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