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conseiller du prince

English translation: privy council

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French term or phrase:conseiller du prince
English translation:privy council
Entered by: Gad Kohenov

15:45 May 9, 2010
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Government / Politics / history
French term or phrase: conseiller du prince
In a text about the policy of the French Academy of Medicine during WW2-

A cette date, confiants dans leur capacité à infléchir la politique de rationnement, les membres de l'Académie de médecine se conforment donc strictement à leur rôle de conseillers du prince...
Martha Melter
France
Local time: 16:34
privy council
Explanation:
suggestion.
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Gad Kohenov
Israel
Local time: 17:34
Grading comment
Thanks to all for your thoughtful answers. I think that phil is right that its better to avoid the word prince here. "A kind of privy council" seems appropriate to me.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +2advisors to the prince
Fiorsam
4The Prince's counsel
Michel F. Morin
4counselor to the prince
Susan Nicholls
3privy council
Gad Kohenov
3Privy Counsellor (PC)
Hazel Le Goff


Discussion entries: 2





  

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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
privy council


Explanation:
suggestion.

Gad Kohenov
Israel
Local time: 17:34
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in HebrewHebrew
PRO pts in category: 11
Grading comment
Thanks to all for your thoughtful answers. I think that phil is right that its better to avoid the word prince here. "A kind of privy council" seems appropriate to me.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Chris Hall: These are people (i.e. the advisers) and not the organisation itself.
1 hr
  -> think out of the box
agree  philgoddard: I actually think this is better than anything containing the word "prince". You could say "a kind of privy council".
6 hrs
  -> Thanks a lot~~
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
The Prince's counsel


Explanation:
After the Queen's (or King's) Counsel


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen%27s_Counsel
Michel F. Morin
France
Local time: 16:34
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 42
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
counselor to the prince


Explanation:
"conseiller du prince" is an expression referring to the use of knowledge to influence government. It does not refer to a real situation in post-revolutionary France. I belive the ENglish translation is a direct equivalent.

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1051834

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Note added at 3 hrs (2010-05-09 18:55:10 GMT)
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sorry about the typos, should have been "believe the English...."


    Reference: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=zoDEf5__BM8C&pg=PA375&lp...
    Reference: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=QH-dfBod0R8C&pg=PA139&lp...
Susan Nicholls
Local time: 00:34
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Privy Counsellor (PC)


Explanation:
References to a Privy Council of senior advisers to the Sovereign date back to the 14th century, though such advisers had been close to kings long before that. Today Privy Counsellors include all members of the Cabinet, other senior ministers, leaders of opposition parties, Lords Justice of Appeal, and the Archbishops of Canterbury and York. Some members are also drawn from the Commonwealth. The appointment is for life, but under modern convention only members of the Government are normally summoned to meetings, together with new Privy Counsellors who have to take part in a short ceremony involving swearing an oath of allegiance and kissing of The Queen's hand. Should there be a need for The Privy Council to meet in The Queen's absence, Her Majesty, by Letters Patent, creates senior members of the Royal Family Councillors of State, enabling them to represent her in summoning a Privy Council meeting.


    Reference: http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/personalprofiles/theprinceof...
Hazel Le Goff
Local time: 15:34
Native speaker of: English
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
advisors to the prince


Explanation:
Feb 7, 2008 ... This way, the most important advisors to the prince would feel confident in giving their honest opinion on matters asked about. ...
bookstove.com/classics/machiavelli-on-advisors/

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Note added at 19 hrs (2010-05-10 11:20:28 GMT)
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Questo forse sarà d'aiuto nel chiarire il significato della frase (credo che in inglese l'espressione dovrebbe essere messa fra virgolette:


"Consigliere del Principe": questo forse sarà d'aiuto nel chiarire il significato della frase (credo che in inglese l'espressione dovrebbe essere messa fra virgolette):

"...Tra le chiavi di lettura utilizzabili a tale scopo, una è sicuramente costituita dall’analisi dei periodi trascorsi da Spinelli nella veste di “Consigliere del Principe”, vale a dire il collaboratore di personaggi politici di primo piano, in grado di dare un contributo effettivo al processo di unificazione europea..."
www.gips.unisi.it/files/wp23.pdf


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Note added at 19 hrs (2010-05-10 11:22:08 GMT)
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Scusate la ripetizione!

Fiorsam
United States
Local time: 10:34
Works in field
Native speaker of: Italian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Chris Hall
33 mins
  -> thank you Chris!
neutral  philgoddard: I think this is too literal - it's a figure of speech, there's no prince involved
5 hrs
agree  B D Finch: See my discussion entry
16 hrs
  -> Thanks! in fact, as you can see, the URL in my example clearly refers to Machiavelli.
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