Jan 8, 2007 10:25
17 yrs ago
French term
infra EU et hors E
Non-PRO
French to English
Social Sciences
International Org/Dev/Coop
- l’accueil de nouvelles populations « infra EU et hors E », des entrepreneurs, des activités privées
one of the issues to be dealt with by two development agencies
one of the issues to be dealt with by two development agencies
Proposed translations
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| 3 +4 | from within and outside the EU |
Tony M
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Change log
Jan 8, 2007 10:31: writeaway changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Proposed translations
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13 mins
French term (edited):
infra EU et hors E > intra EU et hors EU
Selected
from within and outside the EU
Working for the moment on the assumption that there is indeed a typo...
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-01-08 12:20:42 GMT)
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Following BDF's coment, I did a quick Google, but only came up with around 20 Ghits in English; beware of the stats. being padded out by foreign sites where the collocation is off-context. By contrast, there are some 200,000 for "intra-EU"
I did find one Italian site (searching for "intra UE") where they juxtaposed "infra- and extra-UE", suggesting that this might be quite a common (and understandable!) error.
From those 20 or so English occurrences I did find, I was unable (without digging deeper) to glean any clues as to the likelihood of an error, or if not, the intended nuance of meaning.
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Note added at 1 hr (2007-01-08 12:20:42 GMT)
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Following BDF's coment, I did a quick Google, but only came up with around 20 Ghits in English; beware of the stats. being padded out by foreign sites where the collocation is off-context. By contrast, there are some 200,000 for "intra-EU"
I did find one Italian site (searching for "intra UE") where they juxtaposed "infra- and extra-UE", suggesting that this might be quite a common (and understandable!) error.
From those 20 or so English occurrences I did find, I was unable (without digging deeper) to glean any clues as to the likelihood of an error, or if not, the intended nuance of meaning.
Peer comment(s):
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Kate Hudson (X)
: Could be outside Europe as the EU is almost all the European countries but not quite
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Thanks, Kate! It's true: depending on the source of the document, EU might mean the EU or else be short for Europe; in any case, in FR I'd have expected "UE" if it had meant "the European Union"
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Ian Davies
: Yes, also we assume that hors E should be hors EU
15 mins
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Thanks, Ian! Yes, same assumption — though I suppose if EU = EU, then maybe E might have been intended to mean Europe (as in the continent)
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nicole GELISTER
: I'd say the same.. N
17 mins
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Merci, Nicole !
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Vicky Papaprodromou
54 mins
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Efharisto, Vicky!
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B D Finch
: "put an end to infra-EU fraud, for example in the foie gras sector " www.cervl.u-bordeaux.fr/PDF/SG_Smith_1dec06.pdf Google.fr gives lots of ghits for **infra-EU** in English but not in French.
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Interesting! I'd like to know what it is intended to mean... unless, of course, it is simply a lot of perpetration of the same typo (not at all unusual on Google!)
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Julie Barber
: I agree with Kate that it isn't necessarily a typo - within the European Union and from outside Europe
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Thanks, Julie! From the short time I had to spare for research, it seemed inconclusive to me if "infra" was a special meaning, or just a very common typo (amongst those who never studied Classics!). Totally agree for the EU / E one
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks as always Tony for your help! And to all of the others who shared information!"
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