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talents hors normes à l'exigence hors pair

English translation: supremely gifted and singularly demanding (artists)

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French term or phrase:(artistes aux) talents hors normes à l'exigence hors pair
English translation:supremely gifted and singularly demanding (artists)
Entered by: katsy

09:19 May 3, 2007
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Journalism
French term or phrase: talents hors normes à l'exigence hors pair
A sentence describing famous photographers (William Klein, Diane Arbus, Helmut Newton etc.).
The preceding line is a list of names. This comes immediately after and is a sentence in itself.
I'd like to keep the balance of the sentence, something like "Extraordinary talent setting exceptional standards"... not that great but still working on it!
Your ideas will be much appreciated. Thanks!
Sandra Petch
Local time: 23:31
unequalled talent with unparalleled standards
Explanation:
Not too happy with this, but the best that comes to mind for the moment - an idea for the pot!

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Note added at 47 mins (2007-05-03 10:06:42 GMT)
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if you want to try something other than 'standards' (which I thought was a really good translation BTW!), I feel you're going to have to go for two verb forms...
e.g. superiorly gifted, singularly demanding
I would actually prefer 'supremely gifted', but didn't want to appear to be pinching ideas from CMJ

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-05-03 10:39:11 GMT)
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All credit to CMJ here, but with her suggestions, I wondered about using 'unparalleled talent' with her idea of 'combined with exacting standards' The balance is kept more or less in the rhythm ...... (and, if we get poetic about it, there's even a little assonance with the 'a' sound)
Selected response from:

katsy
Local time: 23:31
Grading comment
I'm *so* sorry, I thought I had closed this question. Out of the many creative suggestions I chose Katsy's "supremely gifted and singularly demanding." Thank you everyone, you were a great help!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +2exceptional talent with unrivalled standards
Julie Barber
3supremely talented artists working to the highest standards
CMJ_Trans (X)
2supreme talent, forever surpassing expectations
Emma Paulay
2unequalled talent with unparalleled standards
katsy
2remarkable talents with unique standards
Swatchka


Discussion entries: 5





  

Answers


51 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
exceptional talent with unrivalled standards


Explanation:
are you sure though, there isn't a suggestion of criticism in the rest of the text - ie demanding?

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Note added at 52 mins (2007-05-03 10:12:12 GMT)
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or exceptionally talented photographers, with unrivalled standards....

Julie Barber
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:31
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Juliebarba - no, no criticism at all, just heaping on the praise!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Najib Aloui
4 hrs
  -> thanks Najib
agree  Gina W
14 hrs
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26 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
supremely talented artists working to the highest standards


Explanation:
not convinced but moving in the right direction (for me)

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Note added at 50 mins (2007-05-03 10:09:16 GMT)
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supremely talented yet highly demanding in their work/field

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Note added at 50 mins (2007-05-03 10:09:41 GMT)
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gifted is good

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Note added at 51 mins (2007-05-03 10:10:16 GMT)
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gifted/talented by nature, demanding by design

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Note added at 52 mins (2007-05-03 10:11:54 GMT)
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naturally highly talented, professionally highly demanding

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Note added at 59 mins (2007-05-03 10:18:57 GMT)
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RAW TALENT combined with EXACTING STANDARDS

CMJ_Trans (X)
Local time: 23:31
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 48

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  katsy: so many ideas - some of which I like more than others, hence 'neutral', but I like 'combined with exacting standards' :-)/how about 'supreme talent combined with.....'?
43 mins
  -> it is indeed a question of taste - sounds silly but normally such things tend to fall into place in the general context of the particular translation. But......
neutral  Emma Paulay: (Only) just realised I er "borrowed" supreme from you. Didn't do it on purpose so please take it as a compliment!
10 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
supreme talent, forever surpassing expectations


Explanation:
Just trying to find an alternative to standards, if you want one, and trying to keep the balance which, I agree, would be great.

Emma Paulay
France
Local time: 23:31
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 48
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18 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
unequalled talent with unparalleled standards


Explanation:
Not too happy with this, but the best that comes to mind for the moment - an idea for the pot!

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Note added at 47 mins (2007-05-03 10:06:42 GMT)
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if you want to try something other than 'standards' (which I thought was a really good translation BTW!), I feel you're going to have to go for two verb forms...
e.g. superiorly gifted, singularly demanding
I would actually prefer 'supremely gifted', but didn't want to appear to be pinching ideas from CMJ

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-05-03 10:39:11 GMT)
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All credit to CMJ here, but with her suggestions, I wondered about using 'unparalleled talent' with her idea of 'combined with exacting standards' The balance is kept more or less in the rhythm ...... (and, if we get poetic about it, there's even a little assonance with the 'a' sound)

katsy
Local time: 23:31
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 17
Grading comment
I'm *so* sorry, I thought I had closed this question. Out of the many creative suggestions I chose Katsy's "supremely gifted and singularly demanding." Thank you everyone, you were a great help!
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
remarkable talents with unique standards


Explanation:
Just another option :))

Swatchka
Spain
Local time: 23:31
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 3
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