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nouveaux frais hors dépens

22:10 Apr 3, 2018
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French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general) / Legal expenses -- additional appeal court case expenses
French term or phrase: nouveaux frais hors dépens
"une somme complémentaire de xx.xxx"


A similar concept to frais irrépétibles > discretionary costs (UK meaning, i.e. sums payable for legal expenses)?

See https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/law_patents_tra...
Conor McAuley
France
Local time: 22:00


Summary of answers provided
4new expenses excepting the costs awarded against plaintiff
Francois Boye
5 -2New expenses out of legal costs.
Mohamed Hosni
Summary of reference entries provided
mchd

Discussion entries: 9





  

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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -2
New expenses out of legal costs.


Explanation:
Hope it helps.

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Note added at 12 hrs (2018-04-04 10:24:53 GMT)
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New expenses except or without legal costs.

Mohamed Hosni
Morocco
Local time: 21:00
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  mchd: http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/dépens/23747
4 hrs
disagree  AllegroTrans: "hors de" doesn't mean "out of" when used this way; http://dictionnaire.reverso.net/francais-anglais/Hors dépens...
7 hrs
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new expenses excepting the costs awarded against plaintiff


Explanation:
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/costs-awarded-against-plaint...

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Note added at 19 hrs (2018-04-04 17:20:27 GMT)
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Erratum: APPELLANT instead of 'plaintiff'

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 16:00
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 104

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  AllegroTrans: Hoew do you know it's against the plaintiff (i.e. not the defendant)? And anyway, in an appeal the parties becone appellant and respondent//OK I see you changed it now to appellant, but how do you know this? (could it not be the respondent??)
9 hrs
  -> Thanks for the remarks!// Because Americans say the US is the country of litigation because costs are not awarded against plaintifs/appellants in the US// https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/litigation-co...
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Reference

Reference information:
Pour cause de NDA, à défaut source utile de référence
*http://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/dépens/23747

mchd
France
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: French

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  AllegroTrans
2 hrs
  -> merci !
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