reprise rémunération

10:51 May 28, 2018
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French to English translations [PRO]
Law: Taxation & Customs
French term or phrase: reprise rémunération
Someone who lives in France is the CEO of a French company and is therefore paid in France. He is also about to become the CEO of the group's holding company in Spain and will therefore also be paid in connection with his work in Spain. So the letter I'm translating contains advice to the employee on the legislation that will apply to his French and Spanish remuneration (with reference to Regulation (EC) No 883/2004). He is being advised that his French payslip should reflect the fact that he will be paid in connection with his work in both France and Spain and include the following items: 'Rémunération [CEO] XXX FR', 'Rémunération [CEO] holding ESP', various social security contributions and '***Reprise*** rémunération [CEO] ESP'. I have done a search for 'reprise' on proz but could not find anything that seems to fit this specific context. I have come across the terms 'write-back', 'recovery' and 'adjustment' in the field of accounting but am afraid that I have no idea of whether any of these terms are appropriate or whether a different term should be used, so any advice will be gratefully received. Thanks in advance for your time!
Sarah Russell
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:53


Summary of answers provided
3recovery of salary
AllegroTrans
4 -3resumption of pay/salary
Francois Boye
Summary of reference entries provided
<i>reprise</i>
ph-b
One of those tricky words with multiple meanings - see No. 8
AllegroTrans

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -3
resumption of pay/salary


Explanation:
reprise = resumption

remuneration = pay/salary

The expression means that the person in question is to see his previous salary-based on tasks in France only- terminated and his pay/salary will resume based on tasks in both France and Spain.

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https://www.lawinsider.com/clause/resumption-of-payment

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 01:53
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 14

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neutral  ph-b: Doubt it... reprise in this context is usually some kind of 'cancellation' (write-back?) of a previous transaction./So he'd be paid both as '[CEO] holding ESP' and as '[CEO] ESP'?
1 hr
  -> NO! It's what comes after a cancellation,

disagree  philgoddard: It's not resuming, it's starting.// "He is also about to become the CEO of the group's holding company in Spain".
2 hrs
  -> Please explain to me how 'reprise' = starting in French!

disagree  AllegroTrans: It sounds strongly like a deduction or requirement to pay back/refund; see Asker's explanation which clearly supports this; your suggestion makes no sense
11 hrs

disagree  Daryo: that meaning of "reprise" makes no sense whatsoever in this ST
13 hrs
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1 day 2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
recovery of salary


Explanation:
Right, here goes

It seems that ovepaid salary is being recovered by means of a deduction

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https://www.pcs.org.uk/resources/personal-case-and-legal-sup...

In September 2003 the employer discovered she had been overpaid for 3 years. As a result measures were imposed to recover salary in phases over a period of ...

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:53
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 74

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  ph-b: I'm not sure where you get 'overpayment' from in the source text... and anyway, remboursement, not reprise, would be used for trop-perçu de salaire, unless of course you can show some reliable quotes?/See answer in discussion box
27 mins
  -> Well, why would salary be deducted if it hadn't first been overpaid? Anyway, only medium CL
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Reference comments


2 hrs
Reference: <i>reprise</i>

Reference information:
The contexte is different from yours but this extract defines reprise rather well, I think.

Dès lors que la survenance d'un risque... ou d'une charge apparaît comme probable, la collectivité provisionne sur l'exercice en cours, c'est-à-dire qu'elle enregistre... une dotation... d'un montant égal au risque (évalué) ou à la charge estimée. Elle crédite simultanément un compte de bilan (passif) pour le même montant.
Puis, lorsque le risque ou la charge se réalise (sur un exercice ultérieur), la collectivité constate la charge réelle et effective... dans son résultat comptable et budgétaire. En parallèle, elle effectue la « reprise » de la provision constatée antérieurement... en débitant le compte de bilan mouvementé initialement.

https://www.collectivites-locales.gouv.fr/files/files/financ...

It looks like 'write-back' mentioned in your intro could apply here, but I'll leave that to specialists.

ph-b
France
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

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neutral  Francois Boye: https://www.lawinsider.com/clause/resumption-of-payment
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Reference: One of those tricky words with multiple meanings - see No. 8

Reference information:
reprise
[ʀ(ə)pʀiz ]
feminine noun
1. (= recommencement)
[de travaux, combats] resumption
la reprise des hostilités the resumption of hostilities
la reprise du travail (après une grève) return to work
Ils ont voté contre la reprise du travail. They voted against a return to work. ⧫ They voted against returning to work.
la reprise des cours start of term
Il faut attendre la reprise des cours. We’ll have to wait until the start of next term.
2. (= occasion)
à deux reprises twice ⧫ on two occasions
à plusieurs reprises on several occasions ⧫ several times
3. (économique) recovery
4.
(Television) [d’émission] repeat
(Cinema) [de film] rerun
5. [de chanson] cover ⧫ cover version
6. (Boxing) round
7. (Business) [d’ancien appareil, véhicule] trade-in ⧫ part exchange
Ils ont offert une excellente reprise. They offered an excellent trade-in deal. ⧫ They offered an excellent part-exchange deal.
8. (Business) [d’article non désiré] return
nous ne faisons pas de reprise goods cannot be returned
9. (Business, Finance) [d’entreprise] takeover ⧫ buyout
Ils sont candidats à la reprise de X. They’re interested in buying out X.
10. (lors d’une location) sum asked for any extras or improvements made to the property
11. (= raccommodage) mend
(à une chaussette) darn
reprises plural feminine noun
(Automobiles) acceleration
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Example Sentences Including 'reprise'
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Agenouillée devant A., j'observe sa respiration, surtout les fractions de seconde avant chaque reprise d'air.

Bombardier, Denise Tremblement de coeur

De même, pour les agressions physiques qui se multiplient depuis la reprise de l'Intifada au Proche-Orient.

Le Nouvel Observateur (2003)

Et la reprise des relations diplomatiques a immédiatement été suivie d'une rencontre au sommet sur le quai du métro Chaus-sée-d'Antin.

Sarraute, Claude Mademoiselle s'il vous plaît

Jacques Chirac regrettera la faiblesse du dollar, qui freine la reprise en Europe, mais la facilite aux Etats-Unis.

Le Nouvel Observateur (2003)

La presse de Hongkong, reprise par de nombreux médias internationaux, a raconté n'importe quoi.

Actuel

La reprise en question n'ayant lieu, d'après les experts, que l'an prochain.

Ruquier, Laurent etc Rien à cirer

Pourtant la tentative de reprise en main de Canal+ par Jean-Marie Messier tombe au plus mal pour la droite.

Le Nouvel Observateur (2002)

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 74

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Daryo: a word with more than one meaning - quelle surprise! And a right pain in the neck - you have to pay attention to this annoying thing called context to decide which one is the right one...
1 hr
  -> thanks
neutral  ph-b: 'Multiple meanings'? Well, yes. Do you really think that we need to be reminded of that? Don't you think that attempting to define the context and the translation field first would be more useful than posting whole lists as "references"?
6 hrs
  -> For an English speaker this is one of the trickiest words in the book, as the possible meanings are so disparate. Anyway I did point to the likely meaning
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