touts collectifs

00:25 Aug 12, 2014
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Philosophy
French term or phrase: touts collectifs
Philosophy text.

"Ni la praxis et ses touts collectifs ne peuvent saisir la cooperation. Au contraire, la cooperation de l'economie contribue a destruire cette relation."

"Collective wholes" is my translation so far. Any thoughts, other approaches? (apologies on a laptop without accents right now)
Charles Vidor

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3collective whole/aggregate/sum of its components
Alexis Pernsteiner
2collective terms / concepts
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B D Finch

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collective terms / concepts


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collective whole/aggregate/sum of its components

I wonder if "its aggregate" could work here as a concise alternative?


Given the reference provided by BD Finch, I wonder if maybe a more interpretive solution like the following might do:

"Neither praxis nor the sum of its components"

Alexis Pernsteiner
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It seems as though your text may be based upon this:

"Ni les théories socialistes, ni les théories libérales ne peuvent comprendre et organiser la co-création et la co-réalisation des subjectivités, sans les détruire, sans produire des effets anti-productifs. Ni la praxis et ses touts collectifs (tels la classe, la loi de la valeur, le travail) ni le paradigme libéral (avec son triptyque : liberté individuelle, marché et propriété), ne peuvent appréhender les conditions de constitution de la coopération entre cerveaux."

Note added at 14 hrs (2014-08-12 14:35:31 GMT)

Before finding that, I had been about to post "collectivities" as an answer. However, that would not fit here. In fact it is difficult to see how class, the law of value, and labour can be validly described as "touts collectifs".

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