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le créatif vs le designer

English translation: creative artist

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French term or phrase:créatif
English translation:creative artist
Entered by: Miranda Joubioux (X)

13:43 Mar 28, 2014
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Engineering (general)
French term or phrase: le créatif vs le designer
Target=UK
Context: an article in an architecture magazine talking about the role of 'le créatif' as opposed to 'le designer'

It starts with:
Nommer « design graphique » plutôt que « graphisme » la pratique du graphiste n’est pas vide de sens.
it goes on to explain the role of the 'créatif' who adds that extra touch that makes a product more visible in the metro.
We then get :
Le designer graphique, lui, trouve sa place dans la remise en question du sujet qui lui est donné à traiter, « remanipulant » un message qui lui est généralement imposé. Il revendique ainsi une relation directe entre le fond et la forme, établissant comme a priori leur interdépendance.

The two words are even used in the same sentence:

À l’inverse du créatif qui cherche à « apparaître », à rendre son geste visible, l’on pourrait proposer que le designer graphique s’attache à « disparaître », s’effacer dans la forme du discours qu’il manipule – « la forme découle logiquement du contenu », clament les fonctionnalistes.

It's all very interesting, but how do I make this distinction in English?

If I call the 'créatif' a 'creative person', IMO this is not specific enough.
It is obvious that I cannot call him a 'designer'.

Can anyone out there see a solution to this probem?

As usual your help is much appreciated.
Miranda Joubioux (X)
Local time: 14:04
the creative, ingenious, prolific, inventive artist
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Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 09:04
Grading comment
Much as Tony is correct in saying that the word 'Creative' is used in English as well, I felt it was too informal for my article and I opted for 'creative artist', which fitted well. Thanks to everyone.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1creative
Tony M
3the creative, ingenious, prolific, inventive artist
Mario Freitas
3ideas man
ormiston


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30 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
créatif
creative


Explanation:
...as the name of a person!

In various fields, a distinction is made between the 'creatives' and the 'designers' — although there may be some difference in the exact demarcation, I believe the situation is broadly equivalent between EN and FR in this.

Tony M
France
Local time: 14:04
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 640

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agree  philgoddard
41 mins
  -> Thanks, Phil!
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the creative, ingenious, prolific, inventive artist


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Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 09:04
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Much as Tony is correct in saying that the word 'Creative' is used in English as well, I felt it was too informal for my article and I opted for 'creative artist', which fitted well. Thanks to everyone.
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1 day 3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
ideas man


Explanation:
It's Nice That : Graphic Design: Ideas man Josh King has a weird ...



www.itsnicethat.com/.../graphic-design-josh-king-is-t...‎


I have seen this as a job description too...

27 août 2013 - Graphic Design: Ideas man Josh King has a weird and wonderful way of looking at the world. Posted by Liv Siddall, Tuesday 27 August 2013

ormiston
Local time: 14:04
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: Fine if used in this way to describe some particular man — but you'll have the PC crowd down on you like a ton of bricks in any more general context!
12 mins
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