en pure perte

20:05 Aug 20, 2010
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French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Psychology / Psychoanalytic Case Histories
French term or phrase: en pure perte
Mother-daughter relationship/ravage.

Contexte:

"A l'endroit du désert laissé par la disparition de la jouissance maternelle ruineuse peut s'éprouver une jouissance seulement phallique, **en pure perte.** Cette jouissance sexuelle de la femme est-elle pourtant 're-suscitée' de celle éprouvée avec sa mère dans le ravage?"

Merci,

femme
Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
Local time: 13:53


Summary of answers provided
2 +3perfectly gratuitous
polyglot45
2 +1purposeless
Claire N.


  

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45 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +3
perfectly gratuitous


Explanation:
perhaps

polyglot45
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Robin Levey: I'd prefer 'entirely' gratuitous (or maybe 'wholely').
3 hrs
  -> question of taste but I was thinking of "perfectly gratuitously"

agree  Daniel House
14 hrs

agree  Tony M: I actually think 'purely gratuitous' would work Ok too; though I'm a bit worried that this would usually translate 'gratuit', so is there a nuance of meaning involved here?
1 day 10 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
purposeless


Explanation:
Agir en pure perte. Agir sans aucun profit, inutilement.

http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/perte

Claire N.
Local time: 13:53
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Robin Levey: Yes - but in Asker's sentence it would be 'without purpose'.
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, mm.
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