servitude de passage à talon

English translation: easement of (right of) way (for vehicular and foot traffic ...)

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French term or phrase:servitude de passage (vehicules et à talon ...)
English translation:easement of (right of) way (for vehicular and foot traffic ...)
Entered by: B D Finch

14:32 Jul 24, 2018
French to English translations [PRO]
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French term or phrase: servitude de passage à talon
servitude de passage, vehicules et à talon, piétons et autres moyens de locomotion

I'm looking for a definition and a translation

thanks
Jane RM
France
Local time: 12:24
pedestrian right of way
Explanation:
https://forum-juridique.net-iris.fr/.../65109-passage-a-talo... - Translate this page
Oct 24, 2007 - Sinon je n'ai vu nulle part qu'un passage à talon permette davantage qu'un passage à pied, aussi vous faudra t'il sans doute négocier une ...

www.shoosmiths.co.uk › Client resources › 2014 Legal updates

May 29, 2014 - For an easement to be abandoned, the person with the right must ... with a vehicular and pedestrian right of way from the main road over an ...

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Note added at 2 days 18 hrs (2018-07-27 09:10:31 GMT)
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Given Tony's comment below, I'd add "with or without horses or other animals".

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Note added at 5 days (2018-07-30 09:10:51 GMT)
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Need to retain the word "easement", i.e. "right of way easement".

A right of way is a type of easement that allows a person to pass through another's land. Typically, a right of way easement is a roadway or pathway for travel through another's property that benefits a particular person or benefits another parcel of land.
What is a Right of Way Easement?
https://real-estate-law.freeadvice.com/real-estate-law/zonin...

A right of way is a type of easement that allows a person to pass through another's land. Typically, a right of way easement is a roadway or pathway for travel through another's property that benefits a particular person or benefits another parcel of land.
What is a Right of Way Easement?
https://real-estate-law.freeadvice.com/real-estate-law/zonin...

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Note added at 6 days (2018-07-31 08:02:46 GMT) Post-grading
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I now think that Germaine should have posted and received points for the answer that she gradually led me to (the "gradually" being totally due to my slowness in accepting the importance of her point). However, as she didn't, I've edited the header source term to reflect how it should have been parsed and posted the target term as amended, rather than my original suggestion.

https://books.google.fr/books?isbn=1454858966
James Charles Smith - 2015 - ‎Law
For example, a right-of-way easement may allow vehicular traffic only, foot traffic only, or both vehicular and foot traffic. The scope of an express easement ...

www.seatacwa.gov/home/showdocument?id=14807
ROW – Right-of-Way is a type of easement granted or reserved over the land for transportation ...

masscases.com/cases/land/21/21lcr385.html

Jul 19, 2013 - The plaintiff argues that he has an easement of way over Cobble View ..... Both vehicular and pedestrian traffic are quite capable of traversing ...
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B D Finch
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Thanks for everyone's help - I was looking for an exact definition of "a talon" in this context, but unfortunately didn't get one
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1pedestrian right of way
B D Finch
Summary of reference entries provided
chemin, sentier, passage à talon
Germaine

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1 day 1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
pedestrian right of way


Explanation:
https://forum-juridique.net-iris.fr/.../65109-passage-a-talo... - Translate this page
Oct 24, 2007 - Sinon je n'ai vu nulle part qu'un passage à talon permette davantage qu'un passage à pied, aussi vous faudra t'il sans doute négocier une ...

www.shoosmiths.co.uk › Client resources › 2014 Legal updates

May 29, 2014 - For an easement to be abandoned, the person with the right must ... with a vehicular and pedestrian right of way from the main road over an ...

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Note added at 2 days 18 hrs (2018-07-27 09:10:31 GMT)
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Given Tony's comment below, I'd add "with or without horses or other animals".

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Note added at 5 days (2018-07-30 09:10:51 GMT)
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Need to retain the word "easement", i.e. "right of way easement".

A right of way is a type of easement that allows a person to pass through another's land. Typically, a right of way easement is a roadway or pathway for travel through another's property that benefits a particular person or benefits another parcel of land.
What is a Right of Way Easement?
https://real-estate-law.freeadvice.com/real-estate-law/zonin...

A right of way is a type of easement that allows a person to pass through another's land. Typically, a right of way easement is a roadway or pathway for travel through another's property that benefits a particular person or benefits another parcel of land.
What is a Right of Way Easement?
https://real-estate-law.freeadvice.com/real-estate-law/zonin...

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Note added at 6 days (2018-07-31 08:02:46 GMT) Post-grading
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I now think that Germaine should have posted and received points for the answer that she gradually led me to (the "gradually" being totally due to my slowness in accepting the importance of her point). However, as she didn't, I've edited the header source term to reflect how it should have been parsed and posted the target term as amended, rather than my original suggestion.

https://books.google.fr/books?isbn=1454858966
James Charles Smith - 2015 - ‎Law
For example, a right-of-way easement may allow vehicular traffic only, foot traffic only, or both vehicular and foot traffic. The scope of an express easement ...

www.seatacwa.gov/home/showdocument?id=14807
ROW – Right-of-Way is a type of easement granted or reserved over the land for transportation ...

masscases.com/cases/land/21/21lcr385.html

Jul 19, 2013 - The plaintiff argues that he has an easement of way over Cobble View ..... Both vehicular and pedestrian traffic are quite capable of traversing ...

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Thanks for everyone's help - I was looking for an exact definition of "a talon" in this context, but unfortunately didn't get one

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: Although the significance is a bit more that just that: 'à talon' means 'foot traffic', and refers equally to animals 'on the hoof' as well as humans! Legalese is not anatomically accurate, but it means 'anything on foot'.
4 hrs
  -> Thanks Tony. That's odd, given that hooves are toes, not heels. What about dogs? flocks of sheep? horses being led, not ridden?

agree  Kevin Oheix
1 day 7 hrs
  -> Thanks Kevin

neutral  Germaine: The "right of way" (droit...) is an advantage/benefit; the "easement of way"(servitude) is an encumbrance. Ces termes ne sont pas interchangeables. // I didn't catch that "right of way easement" was a new answer; please post it.
2 days 1 hr
  -> OK, I accept that it can't just be right of way and that "easement of way" can be a valid wording. So, why don't you post the answer?

disagree  GILOU: traduction de droit de passage
2 days 19 hrs
  -> An easement is granting something: in this case it's granting a right of way.

neutral  Daryo: needs more checking - not to be confused with the "right of way" when there is a footpath open to the public // makes a hell of a difference for the owner of the land!!!
2 days 23 hrs
  -> That would be a public right of way or a public footpath.

neutral  AllegroTrans: there is more to it than this and great care needs to be taken here, this is legal stuff
5 days
  -> See my revised comment to Germaine, above.
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Reference comments


3 days 2 hrs peer agreement (net): +3
Reference: chemin, sentier, passage à talon

Reference information:
Chemin à talon, sentier à talon
Chemin ou sentier où l'on ne passe qu'à pied.
https://books.google.ca/books?id=PN_T68VWitQC&pg=PA115&lpg=P...

Visibles sur le cadastre de la commune daté de 1833, les chemins et passages à talons permettent d’accéder à pied à une parcelle enclavée... On en décompte une douzaine sur l’ensemble du village, matérialisés depuis l’automne 2010 par des panneaux fléchés en bois, sur lesquels l’inscription « passage à talons » est surplombé d’un pictogramme représentant une chaussure.
http://www.letouvet.com/baladepatrimoine/chemins-talons/

Servitude de passage - Easement of passage
SOURCE 1: Black's Law Dictionary, 6e éd., 1990, p. 510, sous "private or public easements".
SYNONYMES: easement of way (302)
NE PAS CONFONDRE AVEC: easement of access (284), right of access [1] (to land) (2032)
GÉNÉRIQUES: easement (n.) (276)
(contexte) [A] public easement is one the right to the enjoyment of which is vested in the public generally or in an entire community; such as an easement of passage on the public streets and highways or of navigation on a stream.
Black's Law Dictionary, 5e éd., 1979, p. 458.

Servitude de passage - Easement of way
SOURCE 1: Megarry, R., et Wade, H. W. R., The Law of Real Property, 4e éd., Londres, Stevens and Sons, 1975, p. 815.
SYNONYMES: easement of passage (295)
NE PAS CONFONDRE AVEC: right-of-way (n.) [1] (70094), right of way [1] (2061), easement of access (284), right of access [1] (to land) (2032)
RENVOIS ANAL. (V. AUSSI): wayleave (n.) [1] (2474)
(contexte) The public rights which most closely resemble easements are public rights of way. The land over which a public right of way exists is known as a highway; and although most highways have been made up into roads, and most easements of way exist over footpaths, the presence or absence of a made road has nothing to do with the distinction. There may be a highway over a footpath, while a well-made road may be subject only to an easement of way , or may exist only for the landowner's benefit and be subject to no easement at all.
Megarry and Wade, The Law of Real Property, 4e éd., 1975, p. 815.
ÉQUIVALENT 1: servitude de passage
ÉTUDES COMPARATIVE (DOMAINES CONNEXES)
servitude de passage. - Servitude consistant à laisser le propriétaire voisin passer sur son fonds soit à pied, soit en voiture, soit avec des bestiaux.
Capitant, Voc. juridique, 1936, p. 449.
servitude de passage. - Servitude par laquelle est établi, au profit d'un fonds, un passage sur un autre fonds.
Crépeau, Dict. de droit privé, 1985, p. 174

Servitude de sentier - Easement of footway
SOURCE 1: Vanderlinden, Jacques, Gérard Snow et Donald Poirier, La common law de A à Z, 1re éd., Cowansville (Québec), Yvon Blais, 2010, p. 467.




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Le "passage à talon", simple passage de l'homme

Le droit de passage est une servitude qui peut être plus ou moins étendue. On peut, sous ce rapport, en distinguer trois espèces:
1. Le simple passage de l'homme. (/ter.)
2. Le passage avec char à bras, ou bestiaux, ou pour puiser la source d’autrui. (Actus.)
3. Enfin, le droit de passage avec chars attelés pour l'exploitation d'un fonds…

Le simple passage de l'homme, connu sous le nom de sentier, de passage à pied, de passage à talon, ou de petite voirie, s’exerce habituellement sur une largeur de trois pieds au plus…
https://books.google.ca/books?id=UDTyAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA73&lpg=PA...

Au cas présent,… « servitude de passage à talons », plus communément appelée aujourd’hui « servitude de passage à pied ».
https://forum.pages14-18.com/viewtopic.php?t=30981&start=10


    Reference: http://www.juriterm.ca/
Germaine
Canada
Native speaker of: French

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  GILOU
18 hrs
  -> Merci, Gilou.
agree  Daryo: yes, there is a distinction to be aware of - "rights" limited to owners of an enclaved neighbouring land and " right-of-way" given to any member of the public.
22 hrs
  -> La distinction est plutôt celle de la servitude v. le droit; que le droit de passage soit privé ou public est une autre question...
agree  writeaway
9 days
  -> Thanks, writeaway.
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