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10:30 Sep 6, 2000
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Art/Literary
French term or phrase: pastel gras / qui a gagne ... ses femmes de la terre
I know "pastel gras" is a type of pastel used for painting, but how does it differ from simple "pastel?"

In the following phrase I'm not exactly sure what he means by "a gagne": "Ses paysages bretons offrent de richesse picturale qui a gagne en subtilite lumineuse ses femmes de la terre." My interpretation, which I'm not at all sure about: "With luminous subtlety, his countrywomen are bathed in the rich subtlety of his Breton landscapes." Help!! Karen
Karen Tucker
English translation:see below
Explanation:
pastel gras=like an oil pastel, therefore, the term for a painting in
this technique and/or the actual tool
(oil pastel)with which the painting is
created. Pastel=the color spectrum of
pastels of colors. There is a pastel
for pink, red, blue etc.

a gagne=verleihen (sorry, I always go
back to German first)is the sense
I would use in this case, which translates into English:
to bestow on or: to give s.th. the
appearance of

I would start the sentence with:
The Breton countrysite/landscapes . . .
which has bestowed . . .

(rather than passive construction)

I also would avoid subtlety 2x in one
sentence.

Hope this helps.
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Elisabeth Moser
United States
Local time: 00:28
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Thank you very much for your help with both terms. I like your idea of "bestow" for "gagner." Concerning using "subtlety" twice, that was a mistake! I meant to write "rich imagery." That's interesting how you go through German to get at the right idea. Much obliged, Karen

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naoil pastels (as against chalk pastels.) The former are made
Parrot
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Elisabeth Moser
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oil pastel


Explanation:
Oil pastel is made with oil aswhere soft pastels are made with pigment and gum. Have a look at the first site below for a description of how soft pastels are made. The second site distinguishes between soft and oil pastels.

I am still thinking about your sentence and I will try to suggest something later.


    Reference: http://www.pastelartists.com/about/pastel.html
    Reference: http://www.holbeinhk.com/\pastels.htm
Louise Atfield
PRO pts in pair: 300

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23 mins
see below


Explanation:
pastel gras=like an oil pastel, therefore, the term for a painting in
this technique and/or the actual tool
(oil pastel)with which the painting is
created. Pastel=the color spectrum of
pastels of colors. There is a pastel
for pink, red, blue etc.

a gagne=verleihen (sorry, I always go
back to German first)is the sense
I would use in this case, which translates into English:
to bestow on or: to give s.th. the
appearance of

I would start the sentence with:
The Breton countrysite/landscapes . . .
which has bestowed . . .

(rather than passive construction)

I also would avoid subtlety 2x in one
sentence.

Hope this helps.


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Elisabeth Moser
United States
Local time: 00:28
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in pair: 32
Grading comment
Thank you very much for your help with both terms. I like your idea of "bestow" for "gagner." Concerning using "subtlety" twice, that was a mistake! I meant to write "rich imagery." That's interesting how you go through German to get at the right idea. Much obliged, Karen

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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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1 hr
oil pastels (as against chalk pastels.) The former are made


Explanation:
with resins and oils and are more consistent to the touch, whereas chalk pastels or soft pastels may be more difficult to fix on paper (they're practically dust. I've worked with both.)
With regards to "a gagné" its difficult to imagine there's no skipped text in what you have, but its possible that his Breton landscapes exceed his countrywomen in luminous subtlety (by comparison, the author preferred the landscapes).

Parrot
Spain
Local time: 06:28
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 1861

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