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07:54 Oct 28, 2013
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French to English translations [PRO] Tech/Engineering - Automotive / Cars & Trucks / Weatherproofing car doors
French term or phrase:phénomène de trottoir
Context:
COI sur véhicule 307, le cordon chemine sur l’embase de la COI (changement de support).
Attention, si le cordon passe sur l’élément, il y a un risque d’entrée d’eau et de poussière au niveau de la jonction (cf. schéma 21 : phénomène de trottoir).
Solution paliative pour le passage des éléments traversants (rivet, bielette,…) :
Celle ci consiste à intégrer à la conception de la feuille d’étanchéité un trou pour le passage de l’élément et à l’entourer d’un cordon de colle (cf. schémas 22).
Feuille d’étanchéité avec cordon de colle entourant le passage de
la manivelle lève-vitre.
Any suggestions on a bright Monday morning?
TIA Chris.
Sorry but I'm not giving away the info, except to say he was (when on Proz) the most intellectual translator amongst us, with a depth of knowledge and wit capable of lighting up the dullest of translations.
Curiosity killed the cat but who is Bourth, the Unperson
Sounds like a character from Star Wars
(Wouldn't be surprised if he replies that he is my father !)
The best that I can come up with is that if the sealant
encroaches on the door handle bit, whether the sealant
follows a straight line across it or follows the contour of
the handle/panel interface, it divides the handle base into
two parts, a larger (presumably) part and a narrower part
which might be assimilated to roadway and footway.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to say that, but more
sense than seeing the line shown on the drawing as a road
(very narrow) with two (very high) kerbs up to the footway.
That footpathy/guttery U (or upside-down omega) pattern
would be there in any case if the sealant were to follow the
handle/panel contour but stay on the panel side.
Or maybe "phénomène de trottoir" refers to the sealant
going off the panel in the same way as when you drop one
foot off the footway and onto the road (and into the
dog-turd where well-meaning citizens have had their pets do
their thing), doing yourself a nasty injury that is nothing
in comparison to a bit of rain and dust getting inside your
car.
Do have a good evening B.
Seems everybody is in fine form this morning. Diagram 21 shows the sealing arrangement which having looked at it again could resemble the section of a roadway with footpaths either side. The door handle opening being in the road and the film up on the footpath. I seen some descrptions in the past but the idea of a 'footpath' phenomena doesn't strike me as being very technical.
1. I like your sense of humour ...
2. I also like B D Finch's suggestion about 'schéma 21' ...
3. I'm looking forward to an update in order to be able to help
you out ...
Tony is just being naughty! This is really, it would seem, about door seals. Have a look at "schéma 21", whatever that is, and you might find the answer. Perhaps something about water splashing from the pavement against the lower edge of the door?
My research only brings up references to prostitution - but I don't think that's the case here!
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splashing water entry
Explanation: We could do with seeing the diagram
As it is about seals, I wonder if the 'phénomène de trottoir' (which is a coined phrase of the writer apparently) refers figuratively to people getting wet by splashing when a car goes by fast and there is a puddle
Maybe water being splashed up enters the car?
SafeTex France Local time: 13:14 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 12
Explanation: Without having downloaded the diagram, your explanation made it sound like a mishap.
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With acknowledgements to Catherine!
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Re Aker's note. If the plastic film keeps the water out, it prevents any kerbside mishap. Didn't look at diagram because it involved downloading it from a ftp site and I tend to only do that when necessary.
B D Finch France Local time: 13:14 Native speaker of: English PRO pts in category: 105
Notes to answerer
Asker: Have a look at the diagram!! Nothing to do with mishaps, we're glueing plastic film inside the door to keep water out!