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09:18 Jul 12, 2018
French to English translations [PRO]
Economics
French term or phrase: valeur ajoutée
La valeur ajoutée de l'industrie a augmenté de 11% en 4 ans.

Is there a difference in meaning between "the added value" and "the value added"?

Thank you.
Cecile Dupont
Local time: 22:03


Summary of answers provided
4 +5value added vs added value
B D Finch
5Value added
Akah Arnold Florent
4 +1value added by this industry / added value contributed by this industry to the total value of sales
Daryo
3 -1value added
Kevin Oheix


Discussion entries: 2





  

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52 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
Value added


Explanation:
Dear Cecile
For value added,think of the term as the value added during the manufacturing of a car for example. When manufacturing it, you start with the bodywork which may cost $1500, then you add the engine which may cost you $2000 and many other parts. So value added is all what you add during the assembly line to have a complete car.
Meanwhile, added value is what you add to the car when it leaves the factory so that it is valued by customers. This value could be it's warranty period or the marketing of the car as it adds value to the selling price without having to add anything to the car.
I hope you find this helpful.

Example sentence(s):
  • The industry's value added increased by 11% in 4 years.
Akah Arnold Florent
Cameroon
Local time: 21:03
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway: same as first answer -for that matter, all 3 answers are the same
4 mins

disagree  Daryo: this ST is not about "added value" as subjectively perceived by buyers/customers, you got that part wrong
2 hrs

disagree  njweatherdon: the explanation is completely incorrect for its usage in the field
3 hrs

agree  philgoddard: The value added by the industry.
4 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
value added vs added value


Explanation:
Just as, in French, there's a difference between "La valeur ajoutée de l'industrie" and "La valeur ajoutée par l'industrie".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Added_value
"Added value in financial analysis of shares is to be distinguished from value added. It is used as a measure of shareholder value, calculated using the formula:

"Added Value = Price that the product or service is sold at - cost of producing the product

"Added Value can also be defined as the difference between a particular product's final selling price and the direct and indirect input used in making that particular product. Also it can be said to be the process of increasing the perceived value of the product in the eyes of the consumers (formally known as the value proposition)."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_value_added
In corporate finance, economic value added (EVA) is an estimate of a firm's economic profit, or the value created in excess of the required return of the company's shareholders.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/06/economicvsmarket...

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shareholdervalueadded.a...
Shareholder value added (SVA) is a measure of the operating profits that a company has produced in excess of its funding costs, or cost of capital.

https://www.englishforums.com/English/ValueAddedVsAddedValue...


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Note added at 2 hrs (2018-07-12 11:29:12 GMT)
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The header term as posted is ambiguous, so I didn't put "value added" as the answer header term. However, in the (limited) context provided that does seem to be the correct term.


    https://www.englishforums.com/English/ValueAddedVsAddedValue/qvvn/post.htm
B D Finch
France
Local time: 22:03
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: I think you're right, if we conclude that it should be 'value added' as per your refs.
19 mins
  -> Thanks Tony. Yes.

agree  writeaway: not my field but since everyone has suggested the same answer, I'll just go with the flow
1 hr
  -> Thanks writeaway.

agree  njweatherdon
2 hrs
  -> Thanks NJ

neutral  Daryo: all that is correct, but can't put in the same basket microeconomics and macroeconomics - different ways of thinking.
2 days 11 hrs
  -> I think this has more to do with the difference between finance and economics than between micro and macro.

agree  ph-b: that this answers the question as asked: "Is there a difference between...?"
2 days 19 hrs
  -> Thanks ph-b

agree  GILOU
6 days
  -> Thanks Gilou
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
valeur ajoutée de l'industrie
value added by this industry / added value contributed by this industry to the total value of sales


Explanation:
here they are talking of "valeur ajoutée / added value" in its most literal sense, as defined for the purpose to TVA/VAT, IOW they are not measuring the volume of sales, but only the contribution of this industry to the final product, the value added to used inputs.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2018-07-12 13:30:23 GMT)
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for the purpose of "Taxe sur la Valeur Ajoutée / Value Added Tax"

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:03
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: This seems to be about operating profits, not value added in the context of VAT.
2 hrs
  -> can't be - operating profit and "value added by us as part of the total value of our sales" are two different concepts (interlinked BUT DIFFERENT) // CL5+ about that ... AS IN: we "added value" to our products but still made operating losses - can happen!

agree  Johannes Gleim: It's the overall value added to the gross national product by industrial activities.
8 hrs
  -> Thanks!
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
value added


Explanation:
The industry's value added
Industrial value added

http://www.chinese-embassy.org.uk/eng/ambassador/t1362437.ht...

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Note added at 27 minutes (2018-07-12 09:45:45 GMT)
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Also "value-added" = total output in a particular economy, increase in value, profit from sales

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Note added at 4 heures (2018-07-12 13:46:29 GMT)
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It was not clear and rather generic so here is what I meant:

Economics = "total output/profit"
Marketing = "Increase in value"

Example sentence(s):
  • The industry's value added grew/rose/increased by 11%
Kevin Oheix
France
Local time: 22:03
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway: you were first, as an esteemed colleague often posts
2 hrs
  -> Thank you. I did notice.

disagree  njweatherdon: total output and increase in value are not hte same thing. The proposed answer is correct, but the explanation is not.
3 hrs
  -> I was referring to different fields here. "Total output" = economics but "increase in value" = production, marketing

disagree  Daryo: you give 3 interpretations that ARE NOT synonyms, so unsurprisingly ONLY ONE can be right (for this ST, or at all): " increase in value" // explanations are as important as the proposed translation. Right choice for wrong reasons is not helping anyone.
2 days 12 hrs
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