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02:19 Sep 14, 2007
French to English translations [Non-PRO]
Education / Pedagogy / Economics
French term or phrase: deuxième licence
This is a diploma certifying the person passed exams of the "deuxième licence" in economics in Belgium. Is this a bachelor's degree or a master's degree?
Laura
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4second licentiateVandor
3second year degree courseAlain Pommet


  

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second year degree course


Explanation:
For a bachelor's degree.

I think this is just a way of saying 'deuxième année de licence'.

I believe that in Belgium as in France this was previously a recognised level / diploma but that since the Bologna reforms this is no longer the case.


http://progcours.ulg.ac.be/cocoon/en/programmes/SLCHIM01.htm...

1. UNIVERSTITY DEGREE CURRICULUM

Transitional Bachelor's Degree
First three-year degree (180 credits) giving direct access to the Master degree (replaces the former candidatures).


http://www.hec.ulg.ac.be/EN/international/students/contenu/b...

Alain Pommet
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second licentiate


Explanation:
I think this is the second degree (licentiate) one has obtained. If someone has obtained an undergradute or more precisely a "licentiate" previously, he can enroll for a second degree which can be accomplished in a shorter period since it presumes certain skills were already aquired during the first one. There are in general separate enrollment quotas for such candidates and is generally not for free ,the state subsidizing only the first licentiate. If for instance the first licentiate took normally 4 years, this second would take usually 2. In some countries in Europe this is called the second diploma or the second degree ,in others a masters, but it is not the same as a degree composed of a major and a minor (field of specialisation). Eventually can be a combined or joint program between two universities which offers two degrees-two licenses in this case. So the second licentiate I think is the proper answer

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Note added at 9 hrs (2007-09-14 11:47:19 GMT)
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A licentiate is/was 4 years in general up to 5 for engineering and 6 for medical sciences,so it is a "higher" degree than a bachelors. It can be eventually the equivalent of a bachelor+ a 1 year Masters, but this is just a mecanic correspondence. It is certainly less than a"new " or American type of Masters which presumes 3+2 =5 years of university education.For instance in Hungary it is called like Supplemental fundamental education and it takes usually 2 years,while in Romania which has adopted traditionally the French educational system and the Belgian constitution it is called the same "second licentiate"

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