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English translation: hold sth against s/o

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French term or phrase:tenir qqch rigueur à qqn
English translation:hold sth against s/o
Entered by: Tony M
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08:03 Sep 15, 2011
French to English translations [PRO]
History / Diplomatic
French term or phrase: tenir rigueur à
The full paragraph:

Le nouveau Ministre des Affaires Etrangères M. Pak Tjyei-syoun est actuellement Ministre de Corée à [Pékin ?], il a été choisi par l’Empereur avec l’approbation de M. [Pavlov ?], bien que ce fut lui qui fit arracher les poteaux télégraphiques plantés par une Compagnie russe dans le mois de [ ???] pour relier la ligne coréenne à Vladivosok. Les Russes n’avaient peut-être pas agi en cette circonstance avec toute la prudence incluse [bref?] M. [Pavlov ?] n’en a pas tenu rigueur à M. [Pak ?].

The original is in handwriting, to explain the unsure words.

My problem is with the end of the paragarph. I understand that the Russians wanted Mr. Pak and that they acted with prudence not to upset the Koreans any more. So why should they be still angry at Mr. Pak. I think I missed something here. I also have a problem with the "bref" and "inclus", but that is less crucial, I think.
Stephen Rifkind
Israel
Local time: 07:23
hold it against
Explanation:
Is the basic meaning — note the preceding 'en'

Perhaps here "didn't actually blame him for this", but we'd need to know a bit more about the overall situation to see exactly which way to turn it. As well, of course, as maintaining a style appropriate for the period!
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Tony M
France
Local time: 06:23
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Merci
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hold it against


Explanation:
Is the basic meaning — note the preceding 'en'

Perhaps here "didn't actually blame him for this", but we'd need to know a bit more about the overall situation to see exactly which way to turn it. As well, of course, as maintaining a style appropriate for the period!

Tony M
France
Local time: 06:23
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 65
Grading comment
Merci

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  David Goward: I think polyglot45 has summed it up nicely (see discussion panel)
11 mins
  -> Thanks, David! Indeed, yes, a pity s/he didn't submit it as an answer.

agree  Alistair Ian Spearing Ortiz
13 mins
  -> Thanks, Alistair!

agree  Simo Blom
5 hrs
  -> Thanks, Simo!

agree  rossignol
10 hrs
  -> Merci, Rossignol !
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Changes made by editors
Sep 20, 2011 - Changes made by Tony M:
Edited KOG entry<a href="/profile/89747">Stephen Rifkind's</a> old entry - "tenir rigueur à" » "hold it against"
Sep 15, 2011 - Changes made by Tony M:
Term askedtenu rigeur » tenir rigueur à


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