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10:24 Sep 6, 2006
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French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Geography / claims
French term or phrase: départements
yes, that's right, as in 01 Ain 02 Aisne etc etc down to 95 Val d'Oise.
I can't call them regions because they're something different. They're not counties. I can't leave them as departments as this is confusing.
Any suggestions?

Thanks
Marc Glinert
Local time: 05:37
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Summary of answers provided
4 +7départements
Flo Demolis
5 +1Departmentstranslatol
4administrative districtstranslatol


Discussion entries: 9





  

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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
départements


Explanation:
Leave it as it is. That's what I do - and I'm not the only one. See http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=French département &b...

Flo Demolis
France
Local time: 05:37
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Aisha Maniar
2 mins
  -> Thank you Aisha :-)

agree  writeaway: oeuf course. In English we also use Länder for the German Bundesländer. Can't imagine what anyone could possibly use other than the French 'Départements'. can't understand what the prob actually is.
15 mins
  -> Thank you writeaway :-) // Neither do I, frankly. I think most people today know enough about France to have heard of a "département" and, as Marion and Andy suggest, it can be explained if needs be.

agree  Amy Williams
18 mins
  -> Thank you Amy!

agree  xxxCMJ_Trans: this is what I do using italics or inverted commas or both
36 mins
  -> Thank you CMJ_Trans :-)

agree  Marion Sadoux: you could put a translater's note explaining what they are if you feel it is necessary
38 mins
  -> Thank you Marion :-) Good idea.

agree  Andreas THEODOROU: i leave it as is - sometimes I explain it the first time (administrative district) and I use Roman type especially if it will be used repeatedely
44 mins
  -> Thank you Andy :-)

agree  Charlie Bavington: I use italics, keeping the French spelling. Add a footnote if you feel the readership may be ignorant of French Admin.
1 hr
  -> Thank you Charlie!
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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
Departments


Explanation:
The French term has long been accepted in English as "an administrative district in France" (Concise Oxford English Dictionary). However, I would give it a capital letter or put it in italics to indicate that it's a borrowed word.


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Note added at 31 mins (2006-09-06 10:56:32 GMT)
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Marc, you're wrong about the danger of confusion. The context makes the difference, and the term with is well known to educated English readers, as is shown by its inclusion in the Concise Oxford English Dictionary.

translatol
Local time: 04:37
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  juliebarba
11 mins
  -> Thank you very much.

neutral  Andreas THEODOROU: there *is* a danger of confusion in some contexts if the English 'translation' is used eg all cases of tuberculosis should be notified to the appropriate department
53 mins
  -> The context you give is very different from the one the asker is dealing with. Context very often disambiguates.

neutral  writeaway: agree with Andy. the 'only' remote possibility of confusion would be if the English is used instead of the French and there is no visible context.
2 hrs
  -> I can only repeat that Department has long been used in English for Département or with its meaning. See the English dictionaries (Oxford, Merriam-Webster).
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
administrative districts


Explanation:
Though I hold to my view expressed elsewhere, I suggest getting out of the asker's quandary by replacing the word by what (according to the Concise Oxford English Dictionary) it means.

translatol
Local time: 04:37
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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