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00:49 Jul 21, 2012
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French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Insurance
French term or phrase: capital est arrêté
From a borrowers insurance contract...

Context:

Capital assuré en cas de Perte Totale et Irréversible d'Autonomie
Il est égal au capital prévu au paragraphe "Capital assuré en cas de décès".
Le capital est arrêté à la date de reconnaissance de la Perte Totale et Irréversible d'Autonomie par l'Assureur.
Donovan Libring
Local time: 14:51


Summary of answers provided
4 +1capital is calculated/fixed
David Hollywood
4sum assured is settled
Gurudutt Kamath
3 -2capital is declared/disclosed
pooja_chic
Summary of reference entries provided
sum insured
AllegroTrans

Discussion entries: 3





  

Answers


2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
capital is calculated/fixed


Explanation:
I would say

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i.e. the capital value is taken as the value on the date in question

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Note added at 14 mins (2012-07-21 01:03:55 GMT)
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maybe "capital is calculated/assessed at"

David Hollywood
Local time: 10:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  TechLawDC: fixed
20 mins
  -> ty TL :)

agree  writeaway: arrêté has multiple entries in the glossary and the many translation options are also in all Fr-En dictionaries.
6 hrs
  -> ty writeaway :)

disagree  Gurudutt Kamath: In an insurance contract, I cannot imagine the use of capital!
13 hrs

disagree  AllegroTrans: Agree with GK; this about a sum assured, we woudln't call it capital in English
16 hrs

agree  Gallagy: capital SUM is fixed (=stopped) seems best answer to me. The sum must be fixed/stopped and calculated BEFORE it can be settled
9 days
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13 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
sum assured is settled


Explanation:
From the limited context provided, it looks like the sum assured is paid. (First, I thought it could be determined or calculated -- however, since the loss is total and irreversible; cannot foresee any calculation in such a case.)

Gurudutt Kamath
India
Local time: 19:21
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in HindiHindi
PRO pts in category: 18

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans
3 hrs

disagree  pooja_chic: its not sum, but capital sum..we shall use capital
3 hrs
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -2
capital is declared/disclosed


Explanation:
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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-07-21 17:16:01 GMT)
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Who said that we cannot use capital
here is a reference:
http://www.uiic.co.in/pdf/policydocs/motor/Individual_Person...
its capital sum...still capital is used

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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-07-21 17:19:07 GMT)
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Sum is first declared then paid

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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-07-21 17:22:00 GMT)
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Here is another link:http://www.uiic.co.in/pdf/policydocs/motor/motor_policy_term...
* The Capital Sum Insured (CSI) per passenger is to be inserted.
SO I WOULD STILL SAY: (ADDING SUM)
CAPITAL SUM IS DECLARED



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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-07-21 17:23:37 GMT)
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http://www.royalsundaram.in/car-insurance-online/car-insuran...
CSI - Capital Sum Insured

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Details of Injury
Scale of Compensation
i) Death
100% of CSI
ii) Loss of two limbs or sight of two eyes or one limb and sight of one eye
100% of CSI
iii) Loss of one limb or sight of one eye
50% of CSI
iv) Permanent Total Disablement from injuries other than named above
100% of CSI



CSI - Capital Sum Insured


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http://www.hdfcergo.com/CMT/Upload/ArticleAttachments/Motor ...
http://www.chubb.com/international/singapore/ah/chubb5035.pd...

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3. Benefit / Benefits means the respective Capital Sum Insured, as stated in the
Declarations, payable by the Company under the terms and conditions of this Policy in
respect of each event or loss covered by this Policy.


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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-07-21 17:27:12 GMT)
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http://www.futuregenerali.in/GeneralInsurance/RetailProducts...

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http://www.uiic.co.in/pdf/policydocs/motor/IndianMotorTariff...

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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-07-21 17:28:27 GMT)
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I think, now my colleague can say that my answer is not based on imagination!

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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-07-21 17:33:44 GMT)
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here goes the link which says there is no inaccuracy to use 'declare'
http://www.chubb.com/international/singapore/ah/chubb5035.pd...
The Named Insured undertakes to
declare to the Company the Capital Sum Insured of every Insured Person at the
end of each Policy Period for year end adjustment. Coverage ceases upon the date
of termination of employment. The Named Insured shall provide written proof of
employment to the Company in the event of a claim.

pooja_chic
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Gurudutt Kamath: In an insurance contract, I cannot imagine the use of capital! Declared and disclosed are again inappropriate choice of words in this context.
4 hrs
  -> Please give reference if its not otherwise disagree without reason or reference seems like just hitting disagree button + Translators are not working on word 'imagine', what we think, we say it

disagree  AllegroTrans: Agree with GK; this about a sum assured, we woudln't call it capital in English// OK but he happens to have somehow hit a "correct" button with his answer!
7 hrs
  -> I can consider your disagree but not his as he is just hitting disagree button without proper explanation
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Reference comments


18 hrs
Reference: sum insured

Reference information:
Sum Insured - Definition of Sum Insured - QFINANCE
Definition of sum insured from QFinance - The Ultimate Financial Resource. What is sum insured? Definitions and meanings of sum insured.
www.qfinance.com/dictionary/sum-insured - Cached

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
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PRO pts in category: 110
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