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English translation: full-time & short-course (3-4 yrs)

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03:17 May 9, 2001
French to English translations [PRO]
Education / Pedagogy
French term or phrase: de plein exercice et de type court
The title of a degree certificate:

Enseignement superieur pedagogique de plein exercice et de type court.

Urgent help would be appreciated. many thanks in advance
Agius Language & Translation
United Kingdom
Local time: 03:06
English translation:full-time & short-course (3-4 yrs)
Explanation:
I needed to understand what it meant first. Here’s what I found for :

« Enseignement superieur pedagogique de plein exercice et de type court »

It would appear to be “full-time short course higher education” (covering a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 4 years). However, this leaves out “pédagogique” and I am unsure of how to take that element into account.

1 - First a Belgian source (lots of refs in fact to Belgium for your term and to medical, para-medical and social career education)

http://www.fef.be/activite/info/legal/19950805_he.html

Section 2. - Enseignement supérieur de type court
modifié par D. 12-12-2000
Article 14. - § 1er. L'enseignement supérieur de type court est dispensé en un seul cycle comptant au moins trois années d'études et au plus quatre années d'études.
§ 2. L'enseignement supérieur de type court associe sur le plan pédagogique la théorie et la pratique, les stages en milieu professionnel ou en laboratoire occupant un temps à déterminer dans le respect des dispositions légales, décrétales et réglementaires par le projet pédagogique, social et culturel.
2 - After having found that and read that these definitions are Europe specific, I checked out the EuroDicAutom which, surprise surprise, came up with :

French Term Enseignement supérieur de type court
English Term short course higher education
Reference BTB

3 – “de plein exercice” = à temps plein

http://www.trainingvillage.gr/scripts/glossarium/index.idc?I...

FR

1. école à temps plein 2. enseignement à temps plein (F)

1. Filière de formation de plein exercice. (L) 2. Définit par exemple la formation professionnelle pratiquée en lycée ou en IUT par opposition ? la formation en alternance, qui partage le temps de formation entre le centre de formation et l'entreprise. L'enseignement strictement à temps plein n'existe plus, dans la mesure où chaque élève doit effectuer un stage qui peut aller jusqu'à vingt semaines pour des bacs professionnels. La loi d'orientation sur l'éducation de 1989 fait obligation d'instaurer une période de formation en entreprise pour toutes les formations préparant un diplôme de l'enseignement technique ou professionnel. 2. Les organisations professionnelles et les syndicats sont très réservés vis-à-vis d'une généralisation des formations en alternance, dont elles ne contrôleraient pas le développement.



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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 04:06
Grading comment
It was so hard to choose a winner here as all the answers helped me a great deal. I suppose Nikki provided a very detailed reply. Just for your info, it was a Belgian certificate!
Thanks to all of you. I really think there should be a way of dividing the points.
Claire
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

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Summary of answers provided
naintensive course
lefoque
nacomprehensive intensive/short training in advanced teaching educationFr?d?rique
nacomments
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
naHigher level teacher training certificate, full-time, short course.Grace Kenny
nafull-time & short-course (3-4 yrs)
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
nafull-time short course
Clair@Lexeme


  

Answers


33 mins
full-time short course


Explanation:
Just a suggestion? Would it make sense in the context?


    own idea
Clair@Lexeme
France
Local time: 04:06
Native speaker of: English
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3 hrs
full-time & short-course (3-4 yrs)


Explanation:
I needed to understand what it meant first. Here’s what I found for :

« Enseignement superieur pedagogique de plein exercice et de type court »

It would appear to be “full-time short course higher education” (covering a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 4 years). However, this leaves out “pédagogique” and I am unsure of how to take that element into account.

1 - First a Belgian source (lots of refs in fact to Belgium for your term and to medical, para-medical and social career education)

http://www.fef.be/activite/info/legal/19950805_he.html

Section 2. - Enseignement supérieur de type court
modifié par D. 12-12-2000
Article 14. - § 1er. L'enseignement supérieur de type court est dispensé en un seul cycle comptant au moins trois années d'études et au plus quatre années d'études.
§ 2. L'enseignement supérieur de type court associe sur le plan pédagogique la théorie et la pratique, les stages en milieu professionnel ou en laboratoire occupant un temps à déterminer dans le respect des dispositions légales, décrétales et réglementaires par le projet pédagogique, social et culturel.
2 - After having found that and read that these definitions are Europe specific, I checked out the EuroDicAutom which, surprise surprise, came up with :

French Term Enseignement supérieur de type court
English Term short course higher education
Reference BTB

3 – “de plein exercice” = à temps plein

http://www.trainingvillage.gr/scripts/glossarium/index.idc?I...

FR

1. école à temps plein 2. enseignement à temps plein (F)

1. Filière de formation de plein exercice. (L) 2. Définit par exemple la formation professionnelle pratiquée en lycée ou en IUT par opposition ? la formation en alternance, qui partage le temps de formation entre le centre de formation et l'entreprise. L'enseignement strictement à temps plein n'existe plus, dans la mesure où chaque élève doit effectuer un stage qui peut aller jusqu'à vingt semaines pour des bacs professionnels. La loi d'orientation sur l'éducation de 1989 fait obligation d'instaurer une période de formation en entreprise pour toutes les formations préparant un diplôme de l'enseignement technique ou professionnel. 2. Les organisations professionnelles et les syndicats sont très réservés vis-à-vis d'une généralisation des formations en alternance, dont elles ne contrôleraient pas le développement.






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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 04:06
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 134
Grading comment
It was so hard to choose a winner here as all the answers helped me a great deal. I suppose Nikki provided a very detailed reply. Just for your info, it was a Belgian certificate!
Thanks to all of you. I really think there should be a way of dividing the points.
Claire
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5 hrs
Higher level teacher training certificate, full-time, short course.


Explanation:
I was interested in the others' remarks about plein exercise and de type court, and I am sure they are right. However, in UK English, a short course runs to weeks, not years. You may want to find a circumlocution, and mention the actual length of the course (if you can ask the subject). I am pretty sure that a pedagogique course must refer to teacher training, or at least to a qualification that allows you to teach.


    Experience in UK Ministry of Education and French schools and universities.
Grace Kenny
Local time: 03:06
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6 hrs
comments


Explanation:
Reading Kenny's anwser was useful here. I too was surprised to discover that in Belgian contexts, 3-4 years was considered short-term.
(http://www.fef.be/activite/info/legal/19950805_he.html

Section 2. - Enseignement supérieur de type court
modifié par D. 12-12-2000
Article 14. - § 1er. L'enseignement supérieur de type court est dispensé en un seul cycle comptant au moins trois années d'études et au plus quatre années d'études.)

Then again, higher education courses can be anything from 1 year (I am thinking of the post-grad PGCE, if that still exists back in the UK) and on through the post Bachelor level (3-4 yrs) Master's (1 or 2 more years) and then onto the doctorate levels, not forgetting medical, legal and architectural qualifications which are very long too.

It might be helpful if we knew which country was concerned?


Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 04:06
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8 hrs
intensive course


Explanation:
could de type court be an intensive course? I don't know if that would work in your context but courses are said to be intensive if they are considered to impart the same amount of content and knowledge as the longer , more standard course in a briefer time period.

lefoque
United States
Local time: 22:06
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22 hrs
comprehensive intensive/short training in advanced teaching education


Explanation:
A bit long, but there you go!

Fr?d?rique
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Jan 6, 2011 - Changes made by Stéphanie Soudais:
Term askedUrgent ...de plein exercice et de type court » de plein exercice et de type court
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