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French term or phrase:salamandre
English translation:salamander
Entered by: Dave Simons
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02:51 Aug 26, 2001
French to English translations [PRO]
French term or phrase: salamandre
In cookery.
I'm a little confused since in one sentence I have "[poêle avec] queue rivetée sur l?axe court pour un modèle de poêle à poissons 'spéciale salamandre' and in another I have "La poêle ovale a la forme idéale pour cuisiner les poissons entiers, y compris la salamandre".
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Now I know a salamander is a type of stove and also that a salamander is a newt, sometimes called the "salamander fish" - but cooking newts in a pan??? Could it be that in the first sentence they're talking about a stove and in the second about whatever an eatable salamander is? And why does having the handle on the short axis make it particularly suitable for salamanders (whether it be the stove or the beastie)?
Thanks for any enlightenment!!
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Dave
Dave Simons
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pls find the explanations below
Explanation:
Salamander: A small broiler used to brown or gratin foods.
Glossary of Culinary Terms
http://www.ddc.com/cheferic/gloss.htm#S

The noun salamander has 3 senses (first 1 from tagged texts)

1. (1) salamander -- (any of various typically terrestrial amphibians that resemble lizards and that return to water only to breed)
2. salamander -- (reptilian creature supposed to live in fire)
3. poker, stove poker, fire hook, salamander -- (fire iron consisting of a metal rod with a handle; used to stir a fire)
http://www.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin/wn?cmd=wn&word=salamander

I guess, it's what you are looking for.
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Natalie
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Local time: 12:11
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I'm not really getting there. Sure, I missed the grill or broiler context, and that would seem a good reason for glueing the handle to the long side instead of the short side; therefore in the first sentence they're probably talking about the inanimate manifestation of the salamander. That leaves the second sentence, which I'm reposting.
Thanks to those who tried.

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Summary of answers provided
naLarousse gastronomiqueBOB DE DENUS
nadesigned to be used in a slow-combustion stovemckinnc
nasalamander ; kitchen torch
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
nasalamander
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
naI agree
Cynthia Brals-Rud
naslow combustion stove
Poornima Iyengar
napoele a combustion lente qui se place dans une chemineedovo
naA special tray
1964
napls find the explanations below
Natalie
nasalamander fishdovo


  

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24 mins
salamander fish


Explanation:
I have met the expression meaning a kind of fish....
not sure for the stove...
it is not abdequate to use in the same text salamandre in two different meanings.

Just a comment!

DOVO




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28 mins
poele a combustion lente qui se place dans une cheminee


Explanation:
I found anther meaning!


    Robert - dictionnaire
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36 mins
A special tray


Explanation:
perhaps it is special tray/dish to put food and cook in a stove , it must have some consturction suit for such dishes.
I imagine there is a dish ( having some ridges and grooves to collect oil and water coming from fishes during cooking)

1964
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37 mins
pls find the explanations below


Explanation:
Salamander: A small broiler used to brown or gratin foods.
Glossary of Culinary Terms
http://www.ddc.com/cheferic/gloss.htm#S

The noun salamander has 3 senses (first 1 from tagged texts)

1. (1) salamander -- (any of various typically terrestrial amphibians that resemble lizards and that return to water only to breed)
2. salamander -- (reptilian creature supposed to live in fire)
3. poker, stove poker, fire hook, salamander -- (fire iron consisting of a metal rod with a handle; used to stir a fire)
http://www.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin/wn?cmd=wn&word=salamander

I guess, it's what you are looking for.

Natalie
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Grading comment
I'm not really getting there. Sure, I missed the grill or broiler context, and that would seem a good reason for glueing the handle to the long side instead of the short side; therefore in the first sentence they're probably talking about the inanimate manifestation of the salamander. That leaves the second sentence, which I'm reposting.
Thanks to those who tried.
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40 mins
slow combustion stove


Explanation:
'salamandre' is a slow combustion stove which prevents over-cooking of fish.
HTH
-Poornima


    Collins Robert
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46 mins
I agree


Explanation:
...with you that the first sentence refers to the stove while the second talks about the eatable "S".

It's the oval shape what makes it ideal not the handle (if I understand your quotes correctly. I don't know why, but I'd think that it is because the fish can fit in it in one piece?

All my searching on-line didn't help me understand it better. I'd suggest asking the client for a short explanation.

Good luck!

Cynthia Brals-Rud
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1 hr
Larousse gastronomique


Explanation:
The Larousse Gastronomique on page 825 gives this explanoation:

Salamander: - Oven,generally gas heated, into which dishes are put to glaze or brown the surface very rapidly.

In French the word also means breadcrumbs fried in butter which are sprinkled over certain preparations.

Larousse Gastronomique 1961

So I guess that in one sentence they are talking about a cooking ustensil.

In the second sentence they are talking about fried breadcrumbs. Not the newt...yukk!

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1 hr
designed to be used in a slow-combustion stove


Explanation:
The Robert-Collins calls a salamandre the above. So I think you would say it like this.


    Robert-Collins Senior
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23 hrs
salamander ; kitchen torch


Explanation:
Special frying pans for fish are flat, rectangular/oval shaped things with a (short) handle in the middle of one of the longest sides. You couldn't hold it properly otherwise.

Otherwise, acording to my Dictionnaire Gastronomique published by La Maison du Dictionnaire, "salamandre" is either :

- salamandre grill = grill
- salamandre poêle = slow combustion stove

It appears very commonly as a sort of kitchen torch, see first two refs here.

1 - http://www.island.be/cuisine/Gourmande/cgourtech.htm

Salamandre pour la crème brûlée. ça ressemble à une lampe à souder! Photo chez Williams Sonoma


2 - http://www.williams-sonoma.com/cat/pip.cfm?sku=1139674&cat=1...

kitchen torch (photo)


3 - http://www.multimania.com/jadeba/cours1o.html

Salade de feuille de chêne et fromage de chèvre.
Préparer des assiettes individuelles. Feuilles de salade de "Chêne" car elles résistent à la chaleur de la salamandre pour griller le fromage avec un rien d'huile d'olive.


4 - http://www.meilleurduchef.com/cgi/mdc/l/fr/recettes/creme_de...

Faites chauffer votre grill (si vous n'en avez pas, vous pouvez utiliser un chalumeau ou une salamandre)
Saupoudrer la surface de la crème, de sucre roux (cassonnade)...


5 - http://www.champagne.fr/fr/accords/index-accords-03-2001.htm...

Découper ces petits chaussons avec l'emporte-pièce afin d'obtenir une forme régulière, les disposer dans un plat beurré, les badigeonner de beurre clarifié à l'aide d'un pinceau, les faire colorer sous une salamandre ou à feu très chaud.



Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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1 day 45 mins
salamander


Explanation:
http://www.foodtv.com/terms/tt-r2/0,4474,1415,00.html

salamander : Definition: [SAL-uh-man-duhr] 1. A kitchen tool used to brown the top of foods. It consists of a long iron rod with a cast-iron disk at one end and a wooden handle at the other. The disk is heated over a burner until red-hot before being passed closely over food. In addition to quickly browning foods, salamanders are used for dishes (such as crème brûlée) that require that a surface layer of sugar be caramelized quickly so that the custard below remains cold. They can be purchased in cookware shops and the kitchenware section of most department stores. 2. A small broiler unit in a professional oven that quickly browns the tops of dishes.

http://desires.com/2.1/Food/Sweet/Docs/sun.html

A salamander, or Creme Brulee iron, is a small iron disk on a long handle. If you don't have one, you can caramelize the sugar topping by placing the desert very briefly under a preheated broiler.





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