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23:41 Sep 23, 2001
French to English translations [PRO]
French term or phrase: Secrétariat d'État à l'Industrie
This title appears on a Masters Degree diploma
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1National Department of Industry
Simon Charass
5Ministry for Industry
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
5 -1State Secretariat of Industry
1964
5 -1(State) Department for Industry
jgal
4Department of Industrymckinnc
3Office of the Junior Minister for IndustryDavid Sirett


  

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National Department of Industry


Explanation:
secretariat = department

Simon Charass
Canada
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
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agree  Carolyn Denoncourt: "department" is used more in English than "secretariat" Check Eurodicautom on this term.
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Office of the Junior Minister for Industry


Explanation:
Not very concise, but follows from what Larousse Fr>En says. I haven't looked anywhere else.

David Sirett
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(State) Department for Industry


Explanation:
Above is a literal translation.

In the UK, this would correspond to the Department for Trade and Industry.


    Reference: http://www.dti.gov.uk/
jgal
Local time: 22:08
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PRO pts in pair: 897

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disagree  mckinnc: hmm, I'd be wary of using the State part as the State Dept is the US Foreign Affairs Department
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Department of Industry


Explanation:
The Department of Trade and Industry in the UK has a very wide remit so it would be best not to use that full term.

Also possible, Ministry of Industry or Industry Ministry, though it sounds a bit odd.

mckinnc
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State Secretariat of Industry


Explanation:
That is used as ..of
You may see all other Secrétariat d'État à .... in below link with their english translations


    Reference: http://www.gksoft.com/govt/en/fr.html
1964
Turkey
Local time: 00:08
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
PRO pts in pair: 294

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disagree  mckinnc: secretariat only used in the EU (Secretariat of the Council)
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  -> are all these in EU (in my link ) not in France ??
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Ministry for Industry


Explanation:
Secrétariat d’état à l’industrie.

Just as the DTI (www.dti.gov.uk) covers trade and industry (with its wide-ranging areas of responsibility, as indicated by Colin), the French MINEFI http://www.minefi.gouv.fr/) is also wide-ranging, the Secrétariat d'État à l'Industrie relating only to industry here of course.

According to the English version of the MINEFI site : http://www.minefi.gouv.fr/minefi/minefi_ang/index.htm the « official » version of Ministère de l’Economie, des Finances et de l’Industrie is : « Ministry of the Economy, Finance and Industry »

http://www.industrie.gouv.fr/cgi-bin/industrie/FranceTech/v_...

« Ministry for Industry » used here in reference to the Secrétariat d’Etat à l’Industrie.

If you apply the same principle and ask what the UK custom is when referring only to the Industry part of the DTI ? Answer ? They never seem to be separated.
The MINEFI and the DTI are not exact equivalents although there are some overlapping functions of course. I suspect that is why the official site uses Ministry fro Industry as it is never the less an accurate and understandable description of the function. If your audience is purely UK, then there may be some argument for using Department of Trade, but Ministry is more global and equally well understood.


For info : (Le Robert & Collins Senior 2000)

Ministère = ministry
Ministre = minister
Secrétaire d’Etat = Junior Minister (US)
[Secrétaire d’Etat (without attachement to a particular ministry) = Secretary of State (= ministre des Affaires Etrangères - US) ; Foreign Secretary (UK)]
Secrétariat d’Etat = (function) post of junior minister ; (bureau) junior minister’s office




    Reference: http://www.minefi.gouv.fr/minefi/minefi_ang/index.htm
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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