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English translation: effeminate homosexual [period, literary term for]

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French term or phrase:cinède
English translation:effeminate homosexual [period, literary term for]
Entered by: Tony M
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06:19 Aug 24, 2014
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / mot
French term or phrase: cinede
Voici un extrait de "Le Divin Marquis" de Guillaume Apollinaire.
Je ne trouve le mot "cinede( premier 'e' est accent grave) ni dans le dictionnaire ni dans le web.

...... Son visage est poupin. Il s'enorgueillit d'avoir une peau tres blanche, des hanches de femme, une voix douce et agreable. Cet aspect denote evidemment un cinede, et des sa jeunesse il fut le giton du duc.


Merci d'avance...
malamour
Local time: 20:39
effeminate homosexual
Explanation:
Or any one of a humber of similar more-or-less pejorative EN euphemisms used at the same period as this work was written.

I found immediately several references making the meaning abundantly clear, albeit without an actual EN translations from definitions like the following, readily found by doing a quick Google serahc:

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Pétrone — Wikipédia

fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pétrone

... débauché », le « mignon ». Par exemple, le terme cinaedus (cinède) signifie « efféminé », « débauché » et renvoie à un univers culturel et social complexe.


Encolpe et Giton, ou le Satyricon de Pétrone moins le ...

books.google.fr/books?isbn=2951602308

Pétrone - 2000
Sur le mot Cinède
Sens du mot
Ce mot a eu plusieurs sens aussi bien en grec, en latin, qu'en français. Nous les envisagerons ici dans un ...

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Tony M
France
Local time: 13:09
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Merci.. Et c'est ma faute. Comme Il n'y a pas de touche 'e' accent grave a mon clavecin! J'ai touche 'cinede' et je ne le trouvais pas...

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4 +3effeminate homosexual
Tony M
Summary of reference entries provided
explanations of the original latin word cinaedus
writeaway

  

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41 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
cinède
effeminate homosexual


Explanation:
Or any one of a humber of similar more-or-less pejorative EN euphemisms used at the same period as this work was written.

I found immediately several references making the meaning abundantly clear, albeit without an actual EN translations from definitions like the following, readily found by doing a quick Google serahc:

Search Results

Pétrone — Wikipédia

fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pétrone

... débauché », le « mignon ». Par exemple, le terme cinaedus (cinède) signifie « efféminé », « débauché » et renvoie à un univers culturel et social complexe.


Encolpe et Giton, ou le Satyricon de Pétrone moins le ...

books.google.fr/books?isbn=2951602308

Pétrone - 2000
Sur le mot Cinède
Sens du mot
Ce mot a eu plusieurs sens aussi bien en grec, en latin, qu'en français. Nous les envisagerons ici dans un ...



Tony M
France
Local time: 13:09
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 128
Grading comment
Merci.. Et c'est ma faute. Comme Il n'y a pas de touche 'e' accent grave a mon clavecin! J'ai touche 'cinede' et je ne le trouvais pas...

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  kashew: Good work.
1 hr
  -> Thanks, J! Insider knowledge... ;-)

agree  philgoddard: Hehe!
7 hrs
  -> Thanks, Phil!

agree  Barbara Carrara: Hehe 2!
22 hrs
  -> Thanks, Barbara!
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Reference comments


3 hrs peer agreement (net): +5
Reference: explanations of the original latin word cinaedus

Reference information:
Cinaedus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome#C...

Latin definition for: cinaedus, cinaedi
cinaedus, cinaedi
noun

declension: 2nd declension
gender: masculine

Definitions:

catamite
effeminate man
man who performs a lewd dance
pervert
sodomite
http://www.latin-dictionary.net/definition/9707/cinaedus-cin...

http://books.google.be/books?id=mR4NAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA21&lpg=PA2...


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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-08-24 09:37:30 GMT)
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last but not least: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_Apollinaire

writeaway
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Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 34
Note to reference poster
Asker: A philgoddard... Oui, c'est ma faute. Comme Il n'y a pas de touche 'e' accent grave a mon clavecin! J'ai touche 'cinede' et je ne le trouvais pas...


Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Tony M: Isn't it fascinating where words come from?!
21 mins
agree  Rachel Fell: helpful refs.
35 mins
agree  Victoria Britten: Thanks for the research!
52 mins
agree  philgoddard: The asker says he couldn't find this on the web. The answer is there in the first Google hit.
5 hrs
  -> plus ça change...
agree  Barbara Carrara
19 hrs
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Aug 29, 2014 - Changes made by Tony M:
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Aug 24, 2014 - Changes made by mchd:
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