première monte

English translation: OEM

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French term or phrase:	première monte
English translation:	OEM
Entered by:	Nikki Scott-Despaigne

19:06 Jan 19, 2002

French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering

French term or phrase: première monte

Script for a car ad. The term is shown as:
"Première monte - [X] en compétition - Formule 1 - Rallyes."
Termium defines it as "Équipements
utilisés pour la fabrication
des automobiles dans les
chaînes d'assemblage" - so I am thinking of simply using "assembly line" as an equivalent, since it's supposed to convey the scenario in the ad. Would I be correct?

Stephanie Mitchel KudoZ activity Questions: 1587 (6 open) (3 without valid answers) (39 closed without grading) Answers: 164 United States
Local time: 13:10

Notes

Explanation:
This temr comes up wuite a bit. Perhaps previous postings may come in handy.

http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=9126&id=102919&keyword=premi...

http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=9126&id=20321&keyword=premi�re...

http://www.proz.com/?sp=h&eid_c=9126&id=44881&keyword=premi�re...

Selected response from:

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 19:10

Grading comment

Thanks - I found what I wanted, which was OEM (original equipment manufacturer) tires.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +2

initially mounted

Yves Georges

4 +1

chaînes d'assemblage - assembly line

barbarabt

stock, stock car

cheungmo

original part(s)

Nigel Patterson

Notes

Nikki Scott-Despaigne

Answers

17 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

chaînes d'assemblage - assembly line

Explanation:
Yes, I agree with you, not only because it is the correct translation, but because that is the term used in technical translations related to cars.

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Note added at 2002-01-19 20:03:26 (GMT)
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Sorry, first time I take part, I thought we were talking about chaîne d\'assemblage

barbarabt
United States
Local time: 13:10
PRO pts in pair: 4

25 mins confidence:

original part(s)

Explanation:
Not sure about your context here - but you can find 'première monte' used in several contexts to mean 'factory original parts' as opposed to replacement parts for cars; eg:
"fournisseur de Peugeot et Renault en pièces de première monte et de rechange"
(www.misfat.com.tn/html/partenaire.htm)

Nigel Patterson
United States
Local time: 12:10
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 24

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

initially mounted

Explanation:
Termium IS WRONG for France. However, it might be different in Canada.

"première monte" means mounted when the car (or anything manufactured complex object) was assembled in the factory.

By no way it means that it is manufactured by the car manufacturer.

Exemple :
"en premier monte cette voiture est équippée de pneus Michelin"
would be translated as
"Initially (from the factory) this car is fitted with Michelin tyres".

Note : no car manufacturer is also tyre manufacturer.

However, the manufacturer can have several sources and also fit Goodyear tyres.
The guy who has bought a car initially fitted with Michelin tyres and then changes them for Goodyear tyres when they have worn out will still say that he had : "une voiture avec des pneus Michelin en première monte", although Goodyear tyres can also be "des pneus de première monte" for other people.

I hope this is clear enough.

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Note added at 2002-01-19 20:42:02 (GMT)
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équipée : only one \"p\" (sorry)

my modest knowledge in this matter

Yves Georges
France
Local time: 19:10
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in pair: 75

3 hrs confidence:

stock, stock car

Explanation:
"Pure stock car racing", for unmodified assembly-line cars; "stock car racing" for assembly-line cars that have been modified (within specified limits).

Compare to the expression: "a stock phrase/answer" (a ready-made phrase/answer).

To wit, from Merriam-Webster:

Main Entry: stock car
Function: noun
Date: 1858
1 : a latticed railroad boxcar for carrying livestock
2 : a racing car having the basic chassis of a commercially produced assembly-line model

cheungmo
PRO pts in pair: 339

19 hrs confidence:

Notes

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 19:10
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 4638

Grading comment

Thanks - I found what I wanted, which was OEM (original equipment manufacturer) tires.

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