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English translation: known (of a known type, in a known manner [in patents]

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French term or phrase:connu en soi
English translation:known (of a known type, in a known manner [in patents]
Entered by: DR. RICHARD BAVRY
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01:30 Jul 2, 2001
French to English translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering
French term or phrase: connu en soi
Need an acceptable English rendering of this phrase sprinkled liberally in a patent:

…sur ce bâti est fixé un support 2 s’étendant verticalement et portant un tube d’Ubbelohde de type connue en soi…

...de façon connue en soi, le tube de mesure comprend trois bulbes…

Many thanks!
DR. RICHARD BAVRY
known
Explanation:
Just so: "...of a known type..."; "...in a known manner..."

This is another of those turns of phase peculiar to patentese -- in this case, shorthand for "...existing in the prior art (that is, in similar inventions that have already been patented and that may have entered the public domain) and familiar to (another catch-phrase coming up) those skilled in the art."

Any patent agent or attorney reading your translation will (ahem) know that you are familiar with the lingo!

Cheers,
HC
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Heathcliff
United States
Local time: 03:16
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Aha! I should have known (connu en soi-même)! I am familiar with these "patented" idiosyncrasies in patents in English, but I was unsure of the French counterparts...you have once again enlightened the benighted! Many thanks!

Kudoz for you, Nodoze for me.

Rich

P.S. As always, thanks to all who took the time to respond to this request.
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Summary of answers provided
naknownHeathcliff
naselfe evident , self revealing , self manifesting
1964
naas per seashiq mangel


  

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39 mins
as per se


Explanation:
as per se
I'm not really sure. According to me,this is it or the closest.

I hope it helps.


    harraps shorter dictionnary
ashiq mangel
Pakistan
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1 hr
selfe evident , self revealing , self manifesting


Explanation:
ýn canadian Court decree it is used as
"a well known ....in itself"
besides there are some proposals in easy seciton , some body asks the same under a letter. But here it seems also a meaning of " unique , sui generis " special in kind

1964
Turkey
Local time: 14:16
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
PRO pts in pair: 294
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1 hr
known


Explanation:
Just so: "...of a known type..."; "...in a known manner..."

This is another of those turns of phase peculiar to patentese -- in this case, shorthand for "...existing in the prior art (that is, in similar inventions that have already been patented and that may have entered the public domain) and familiar to (another catch-phrase coming up) those skilled in the art."

Any patent agent or attorney reading your translation will (ahem) know that you are familiar with the lingo!

Cheers,
HC

Heathcliff
United States
Local time: 03:16
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 953
Grading comment
Aha! I should have known (connu en soi-même)! I am familiar with these "patented" idiosyncrasies in patents in English, but I was unsure of the French counterparts...you have once again enlightened the benighted! Many thanks!

Kudoz for you, Nodoze for me.

Rich

P.S. As always, thanks to all who took the time to respond to this request.
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