cheveux chiffonnés

English translation: bed-head

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French term or phrase:	cheveux chiffonnés
English translation:	bed-head
Entered by:	Alain Pommet

09:31 Jul 4, 2007

French to English translations [PRO]
Textiles / Clothing / Fashion / hairstyle

French term or phrase: cheveux chiffonnés

This is a hairstyle where it is intentional /fashionable.

I have already thought of 'messy' - maybe open to misinterpretation and 'tousled' which is a bit too literary.

This is for a young people's website. Could I just use 'look' i.e. 'messy look'?

Thanks for any help.

Alain Pommet KudoZ activity Questions: 148 (none open) (11 closed without grading) Answers: 1241
Local time: 08:35

bed-head

Explanation:
I've seen this used a lot in UK advertising and it gets loads of yahoo hits; it even exists as a hair-products brand-name.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-07-04 14:17:26 GMT)
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I take your point of course, but I'm sure I remember the term being used well before it became a brand-name :http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/bed_head/

Selected response from:

Jacqui Audouy
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:35

Grading comment

Well I can see which sort of question will draw a crowd on Proz! This is almost impossible for me to judge, as I am entirely dependent on your knowledge of the subject - but I am choosing the option which got the most peer agreement and was completely different from my own thoughts - but thanks for the warning about the tradename. Thanks everyone.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +6

bed-head

Jacqui Audouy

4 +2

tousled hair

Odette Grille (X)

4 +2

mussed up hair

ormiston

4 +2

disheveled look (US spelling) or dishevelled look(UK sp.)

Carmen Schultz

4 +1

the messy look

RHELLER

4 +1

bed hair... that windblown look

Alanna Wilson-Duff

mushed-up

Sandra Petch

the ruffled look

Emma Paulay

Discussion entries: 7

Answers

6 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

tousled hair

Explanation:
I think your choice is the best.

I have heard 'out of bed look' and cruder versions, but it is stylish and 'tousled' is classy

Odette Grille (X)
Canada
Local time: 02:35
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

Sandra Petch: Nice word but not sure it's the right register for teenagers (as Alain says). / It's not a question of "pulling down" but of finding the right tone for the text.

8 mins

-> I am afraid you underestimate teenagers

agree

Alanna Wilson-Duff: I also reckon teenagers are in the know when it comes to tousled

6 hrs

-> Thank you Alanna. I also think that we should not assume they don't know and if they don't we can help them learn rather than pull them downwards...

agree

Claire Chapman: 'Just out of bed' but not 'tousled'. I know that you're going for class & I'm not arguing the point. Just stating what I believe to be best for the context.

7 hrs

-> Ok Claire, thanks for your comment. I like Just out of bed.

11 mins confidence:

mushed-up

Explanation:
Mushed-up hair
Bed head

A couple of ideas...

Sandra Petch
Local time: 08:35
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 35

Notes to answerer

Asker: Hi, Just seen that one of your alternative answers was the one that got most peer agreement - sorry.. but thanks for your help.

13 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

mussed up hair

Explanation:
to correct previous suggestion. Very frequently used.

ormiston
Local time: 08:35
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 26

48 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

disheveled look (US spelling) or dishevelled look(UK sp.)

Explanation:
chiffonné:
chiffonné (froissé) adj rumpled (crumpled)
chiffonné (débraillé, dépeigné) adj disheveled US
chiffonné (débraillé, dépeigné) adj dishevelled
chiffonné (fatigué) adj tired

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Note added at 50 mins (2007-07-04 10:21:28 GMT)
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Another option is : 'windblown hair'; 'hair with the windblown effect/look'

dishevel
A verb
1 tousle, dishevel, tangle

disarrange or rumple; dishevel; "The strong wind tousled my hair"
Category Tree:
move; displace
╚disarrange
╚tousle, dishevel, tangle

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Note added at 56 mins (2007-07-04 10:27:26 GMT)
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Could also say "tangled" hair

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-04 10:35:14 GMT)
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WINDBLOWN LOOK is actually a nice way to describe the messy effect on hair:
Short Hair Buckhead Hairstyle SalonThese wildly different lengths create a full and windblown look for short hair . These wildly different lengths create a full and windblown look for short ...
www.atlantahairstyles.com/shorthair.htm - 22k - Cached - Similar pages

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-04 10:39:54 GMT)
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Another link:

www.girlzone.com/looks/NaturalLook_lk.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

Carmen Schultz
Local time: 01:35
Native speaker of:

Spanish,

English
PRO pts in category: 4

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +6

bed-head

Jacqui Audouy
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:35
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

Grading comment

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Carmen Schultz: It could be a good solution for the young crowd,but the proviso is that it's also a trademark for a TIGI hair product.I Googled 'bed head' & most of the hits referred to the TIGI brand,thus you must be careful with term so as to avoid infringement

2 hrs

-> Thanks for proviso Carmen

agree

Claire Chapman

5 hrs

-> Thanks Claire

agree

Sarah Downing: This is DEFINITELY the one to use. Although, as Carmen points out, it is also a Tigi wax - "just got out of bed look" also sprang to mind, as GWC suggested above.

6 hrs

-> Thanks Sarah

agree

Sandra Petch: Although I had already suggested this ;-)

19 hrs

-> Thanks and sorry, Sandra! My method is : look at query, see if I get a spontaneous answer, check it's not on the list of answers,and if not offer my suggestion; if I have 2 ideas I put them as alternatives in the answr box.

agree

French Foodie: definitely

20 hrs

-> Thanks Mara

agree

Odette Grille (X): Exactly

21 hrs

-> Thanks Odette

6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

the messy look

Explanation:
Creating a Messy look is not as easy and spontaneous as it seems. That uncombed appearance requires work and ‘know-how’.
The perfect ‘Messy’ look has fullness without being too full or too rounded and has movement without being curled.

Reference: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art5244.asp

RHELLER
United States
Local time: 00:35
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 40

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks for confirming that one of my ideas is a suitable translation.

6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

bed hair... that windblown look

Explanation:
when I was a funky teenager (not all THAT long ago!) these were the words we used to describe our ever so cool 'I don't care how I look (but this do took me four hours and two cans of hair spray)' hair styles...

Alanna Wilson-Duff
Local time: 16:35
Native speaker of: English

7 hrs confidence:

the ruffled look

Explanation:
Avoids sounding too "grunge".

Reference: http://www.haircuts.in/

Emma Paulay
France
Local time: 08:35
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 36

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