piscine privée couverte et sécuritée

English translation: covered private pool with safety features

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French term or phrase:	piscine privée couverte et sécurisée
English translation:	covered private pool with safety features
Entered by:	Carol Gullidge

22:08 Jan 18, 2008

French to English translations [PRO]
Tourism & Travel / item in a tourist brochure

French term or phrase: piscine privée couverte et sécuritée

...Excellente table, boissons incluses. Parc ombragé avec ******piscine privée couverte et sécuritée******. Suite 4 pers. : 114 Euros. Supplément de 10 Euros pour la chambre Parc avec terrasse. Ouvert toute l'année.

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In a brochure, listing the facilities for a Bed and breakfast. This term seems to be widely used in similar contexts (plenty of G hits), but I've never come across the adjective "sécurité/e" before. Nor have I ever come across "sécuriter" as a verb. Does this simply mean that it's secluded, or is there some other issue related to either safety or security involved?

I feel sure that somebody must know what this is, and would be grateful for any suggestions - many thanks!

Carol Gullidge KudoZ activity Questions: 352 (1 open) (1 without valid answers) (3 closed without grading) Answers: 2710 United Kingdom
Local time: 13:36

covered private pool with safety features

Explanation:
typo: sécuritée --> sécurisée, probably meaning it has safety features such as child-proof fencing

Selected response from:

Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 08:36

Grading comment

It seems pretty clear that this is a typo (therefore not suitable for entry into Glossary). Many thanks for being the firdt to point thids out! As for 'covered/indoor', well I think that will need to be referred back to the client...I'd certainly hate to be prosecuted for making false claims!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Summary of answers provided

4 +14

covered private pool with safety features

Jennifer Levey

4 +1

private and safe covered pool

Jean-Claude Gouin

covered / indoor pool with security / protection

Enrique Huber (X)

4 +1

private pool fully compliant with (French) safety standards

Graham macLachlan

covered and security conscious private swimming pool

Chris Hall

Discussion entries: 7

Answers

3 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +14

covered private pool with safety features

Explanation:
typo: sécuritée --> sécurisée, probably meaning it has safety features such as child-proof fencing

Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 08:36
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

Grading comment

Notes to answerer

Asker: aha! many thanks, I didn't know about that French law! Also, I don't like to assume typos just in case, but this looks fairly likely here.

Asker: ... despite the number of google hits!

Asker: or how about the FIRST to point THIS out!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Victoria Porter-Burns: I'd say so too

6 mins

agree

Ingeborg Gowans (X): wow, just not fast enough, but "you've got the right one, Babe" (sorry, no offence, just a quote)

7 mins

agree

Miranda Joubioux (X)

10 mins

agree

Kate Hudson (X): covered child-safe private swimming pool would be my take on this given the French law (fine 650000 euro)

14 mins

agree

Gacela20

25 mins

agree

Julie Barber: yes when I googled it other examples came up whereby it was a clear spelling mistakehttp://www.piscine-securite.fr/les-clotures.htm

33 mins

agree

AllegroTrans: but should it not be "sécurisée"?

36 mins

agree

simona trapani

58 mins

agree

Chris Hall: it definitely should be "sécurisée" - definitely a typo...

2 hrs

neutral

Attorney DC Bar: I'm thinking 'couverte' may be more 'indoor' than 'covered'... A 'covered' pool is often one with a thermal blanket...http://www.glrea.org/articles/solarPoolHeating.html

6 hrs

agree

David Goward: Kate's suggestion is perfect, IMO.

9 hrs

neutral

Graham macLachlan: in the UK we say "indoor pool"

9 hrs

agree

Assimina Vavoula

10 hrs

agree

Sheila Wilson: lots of outdoor pools in my village with rigid perspex covers that don't need to be removed, so you can swim in all weather - not one in my garden though

11 hrs

agree

Rachel Fell: you can see the 'sécurisée' pool half-covered here (and bathroom with bright blue basins, etc.!) http://www.abritel.fr/annonces-detail/france_aquitaine_24/ma...

11 hrs

agree

mistahara (X): yes, and "covered" and "indoor" is not the same. there are covered outdoor pools (out there)

13 hrs

18 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

private and safe covered pool

Explanation:
"piscine privée couverte et sécuritée" is a typo or bad French.
That's why, Carol, that you're confused. Maybe they meant
"sécuritaire", "sécurisée" or something else ...

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Note added at 47 mins (2008-01-18 22:55:56 GMT)
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Now that I know that it's a B & B, I don't think that it's an indoor pool or secluded or with a lifeguard; any pictures of the pool?

Jean-Claude Gouin
Canada
Local time: 08:36
Native speaker of:

French
PRO pts in category: 8

Notes to answerer

Asker: many thanks, 1045! I didn't dare assume a typo, especially as it gets quite a few Google hits - which just goes to show how bad everybody is at typing!

Asker: Although it's a B&B, it's in very spacious grounds. No picture of the pool, however...

1 hr confidence:

covered / indoor pool with security / protection

Explanation:
many hotels in Cancun, Mexico, offer these features.

Enrique Huber (X)
Mexico
Local time: 07:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English,

Spanish

Notes to answerer

Asker: thanks, Enrique!

2 hrs confidence:

covered and security conscious private swimming pool

Explanation:
there is definitely a typo here with "sécuritée". The noun is "sécurité" but the past participle here should be "sécurisée".

Chris Hall
Local time: 13:36
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8

Notes to answerer

Asker: thanks, Christopher!

9 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

private pool fully compliant with (French) safety standards

Explanation:
Generally a "piscine couverte" is an "indoor pool" however the term may be used erroneously here. I think that "sécuritée" should in fact be "sécurité", it's a noun.
The "couverte" bit may well refer to a cover as French law requires pools to have a semi-rigid cover put over them when not in use to prevent young children from falling into the water.
Possibly the "sécurité" part refers to a fence or wall around the swimming pool which is also required by French law.
Perhaps the author is trying to say that the pool complies with French safety standards.

The site below may well be worth the visit!

COUVERTURES DE SECURITE ET DISPOSITIFS D'ACCROCHAGE
La norme NF P 90-308 définit les exigences minimales de sécurité, les méthodes d'essai et les informations aux consommateurs relatives aux couvertures de sécurité et à leur dispositif d'accrochage afin d'empêcher l'immersion involontaire d'enfants de moins de 5 ans.
Sont exclues les couvertures destinées uniquement à la protection de l'eau (bâche à bulles seules, bâches flottantes,…)

BARRIERES DE PROTECTION ET MOYENS D'ACCES AU BASSIN
La norme NF P 90-306 définit les exigences de sécurité minimales et les méthodes d'essai, ainsi que les informations pour les consommateurs, pour les barrières de protection et pour leurs moyens d'accès au bassin (enterré, partiellement ou totalement encastré) destinées à limiter l'accès des piscines enterrées non closes privatives à usage individuel ou collectif à des enfants de moins de cinq ans.

La barrière de protection doit être construite de façon à empêcher le passage d'enfants de moins de 5 ans par enjambement ou escalade ou par ouverture non intentionnelle des moyens d'accès.

http://www.eauplaisir.com/annuaire/doc_normes_securite_pisci...

The translations below seem to be in Franglais but one gets the general gist:

Private Heated Pool, Seaviews of Gulf of St Tropez ... with an electric safety cover (conforming to french safety standards) and cleaned twice weekly. ...
www.ownersdirect.co.uk/france/FR1610.htm

To comply with the law, the standards for pool security systems have been set by AFNOR (the body responsible for French safety standards) so that any method ...
www.frenchentree.com/renovation-and-decoration/DisplayArtic...

3 bedroom villa in Ceret to rent from £400 pw, with a private pool. ... private swimming pool, which is constructed to current French safety standards. ...
www.holidaylettings.co.uk/rentals/ceret/29568

Graham macLachlan
Local time: 14:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 178

Notes to answerer

Asker: thanks, Graham - the links are most helpful - serving to confirm that my original "indoor pool" might be wrong!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

CMJ_Trans (X): this is probably the most correct - having just had to fork out for a new fence round the communal pool in the Midi to comply with ever changing legalisation (fence must be 1.10m high and bars at a certain distance apart..., .....

1 hr

-> thanks

neutral

Jennifer Levey: The source text in no way suggests the pool is 'fully compliant' with the standards, it merely says it is 'sécurisée'. Asker should not extrapolate unless client confirms this extended interpretation. (Risk of prosecution - false advertising claims!)

2 hrs

-> extrapolation? it does in fact say "sécuritée"... how can you be sure that's a typo for "sécurisée"? whatever, they wouldn't be able to advertise it if it wasn't fully compliant

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