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Italian translation: paternostro/paternoster/padrenostro

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French term or phrase:patenôtre/paternostre/patrenostre/patenostre
Italian translation:paternostro/paternoster/padrenostro
Entered by: Nanny Wintjens
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20:33 Aug 11, 2004
French to Italian translations [PRO]
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French term or phrase: patenotrer
= rendere membro onorario?
Valerio Valentini Daniele
Italy
Local time: 00:07
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Explanation:
Senza contesto è difficile aiutarti ! Sembra que la parola "patenotrer" non esiste in francese. Solo ho trovato la parola "patenôtre", l'equivalente del "paternostro,paternoster o padrenostro" in italiano.

"...L’origine di questa forma di devozione è così spiegata dal Gougaud: «Le terme le plus ancien est, en latin paternoster, en français ***paternostre, patrenostre, patenostre, patenôtre***... En effet, c’est pour réciter un nombre déterminé de Pater (et non de salutations angéliques), soit pendant l’office, soit comme suffrages pour les défunts, que l’instrument fut d’abord employé par les religieux non-prêtres, par les frères convers de certains ordres et par de pieux fidèles»..."
http://www.minimi.it/bollettino/SPIRITUALITAMARIANA2003-3.ht...
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Nanny Wintjens
Spain
Local time: 23:07
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Explanation:
Senza contesto è difficile aiutarti ! Sembra que la parola "patenotrer" non esiste in francese. Solo ho trovato la parola "patenôtre", l'equivalente del "paternostro,paternoster o padrenostro" in italiano.

"...L’origine di questa forma di devozione è così spiegata dal Gougaud: «Le terme le plus ancien est, en latin paternoster, en français ***paternostre, patrenostre, patenostre, patenôtre***... En effet, c’est pour réciter un nombre déterminé de Pater (et non de salutations angéliques), soit pendant l’office, soit comme suffrages pour les défunts, que l’instrument fut d’abord employé par les religieux non-prêtres, par les frères convers de certains ordres et par de pieux fidèles»..."
http://www.minimi.it/bollettino/SPIRITUALITAMARIANA2003-3.ht...

Nanny Wintjens
Spain
Local time: 23:07
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 10

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Monique Laville: En effet, par extension patenotre a aussi les significations suivantes, qui ne correspondent pas cependant à la question posée: http://atilf.atilf.fr/Dendien/scripts/tlfiv5/affart.exe?19;s...
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  -> Merci Monique
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