knirsche Verlegen

English translation: butt jointing

09:46 May 3, 2019
German to English translations [PRO]
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German term or phrase: knirsche Verlegen
Außerdem gewährleistet die Verzahnung der Steinstirnseiten das knirsche Verlegen im Stoßbereich.

Talking about bricklaying techniques.

TIA.
jackiekiefer
English translation:butt jointing
Explanation:
'Knirsches Verlegen' (the adjective is knirsch) or 'Knirschverlegung' is 'fugenloses Verlegen', as explained in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74UDBdjPZ-Q Quote: "Wir sprechen von einer Knirschverlegung, das heißt die Steine liegen im unteren Bereich wirklich knirsch aneinander. Das einzige, das sie letztendlich trennt sind Sägetoleranzen im Millimeter-Bereich, ansonsten sollten die Steine so kompakt aneinander liegen."

"Butt jointing:
This is effectively no joint. The adjacent paving units are in direct contact with one another; they are 'butted' together."
http://www.pavingexpert.com/jointing15.htm

"There are three main kinds of joint you will be doing. Those would be butt, close and open. This is a short description of those methods:

Butt jointing – This is where there is actually no joint. The tiled units are directly in touch with each other or ‘butted together’."
https://jointingmortaruk.com/jointing-mortar-the/
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Thomas Pfann
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:51
Grading comment
Opted for this because they talk about butt joints (Stoßfuge) in the next sentence, which suggests this is what they're thinking about here. Thanks to everyone for their input.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +2dry stack
Kartik Isaac
3 +3butt jointing
Thomas Pfann
4laying the grating
Cillie Swart
Summary of reference entries provided
knirsch
John O'Brien
Knirschfuge - dry joint (non-bonded joint)
Johannes Gleim

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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
dry stack


Explanation:
To "dry stack" bricks or stone means to lay them together narrowly without using mortar. Hope this helps.


    https://www.morgenpost.de/lifestyle/wohnen/article216714333/Zu-grosse-Stossfugen-an-Waenden-sind-Baumaengel.html
Kartik Isaac
Switzerland
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PRO pts in category: 12

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agree  sam vangheluwe
40 mins

agree  Johannes Gleim: see my reference comment
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28 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
knirsches Verlegen, Knirschverlegung
butt jointing


Explanation:
'Knirsches Verlegen' (the adjective is knirsch) or 'Knirschverlegung' is 'fugenloses Verlegen', as explained in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74UDBdjPZ-Q Quote: "Wir sprechen von einer Knirschverlegung, das heißt die Steine liegen im unteren Bereich wirklich knirsch aneinander. Das einzige, das sie letztendlich trennt sind Sägetoleranzen im Millimeter-Bereich, ansonsten sollten die Steine so kompakt aneinander liegen."

"Butt jointing:
This is effectively no joint. The adjacent paving units are in direct contact with one another; they are 'butted' together."
http://www.pavingexpert.com/jointing15.htm

"There are three main kinds of joint you will be doing. Those would be butt, close and open. This is a short description of those methods:

Butt jointing – This is where there is actually no joint. The tiled units are directly in touch with each other or ‘butted together’."
https://jointingmortaruk.com/jointing-mortar-the/

Thomas Pfann
United Kingdom
Local time: 11:51
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Opted for this because they talk about butt joints (Stoßfuge) in the next sentence, which suggests this is what they're thinking about here. Thanks to everyone for their input.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  John O'Brien
45 mins

agree  Edith Kelly
5 hrs

agree  Steffen Walter
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1 day 6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
laying the grating


Explanation:
verlegen is laying, but knirsche should be Knirschen I believe.


    Reference: http://www.linguee.com
Cillie Swart
South Africa
Local time: 13:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Reference comments


48 mins
Reference: knirsch

Reference information:
Knirsch ist ein Fachausdruck aus dem Bauwesen, der verwendet wird, wenn Bauteile glatt gegen einander stoßen, wobei die Trennfuge nicht verklebt oder vermörtelt zu werden braucht, siehe dazu auch kalibrierte Fliesen.

Example sentence(s):
  • https://www.baumarkt.de/lexikon/k/#knirsch
John O'Brien
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1 day 9 hrs
Reference: Knirschfuge - dry joint (non-bonded joint)

Reference information:
Knirschfuge, auch: Pressfuge, Knirschfugen
In vielen Fällen ist es nicht möglich, Stahlbetonbauteile(z.B. große Deckenfelder oder Bodenplatten) in einem Arbeitsgang zu betonieren, wenn beispielsweise entweder die Flächen zu groß sind oder verwinkelte Bauteile mit Höhen- oder Dickensprüngen wegen der dazu erforderlichen Schalung in einem Bauwerk dies behindern. Diese Arbeitsfugen, die durch das gegeneinander betonieren zweier Betonierabschnitte entstehen, werden als „Knirschfugen“ (da beide Betonteile knirsch aneinander stoßen) oder als Pressfugen bezeichnet. Knirschfugen durchtrennen damit Bodenplatten oder Decken in ganzer Dicke. Auch wenn sie Fugen heißen, besteht bei Knirschfugen keine Möglichkeit, dass sie sich über die ursprüngliche Lage hinaus ausdehnen.
https://www.baumarkt.de/lexikon/k/

Knirschfuge f non-bonded joint, dry joint
(Gelbrich, Fachwörterbuch Architektur und Bauwesen, Ausgabe 2004),
auch in https://architecture_de_en.enacademic.com/34388 ) und https://books.google.de/books?id=nvzQBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA200&lpg=P...

Knirschfuge dry joint
https://www.stalys.de/data/immobilienwoerterbuch/iwb_kli.htm

-/mörtellose dry joint. -/offene hollow (open) joint; drained joint ...... Knirschfuge f dry (non-bonded) joint.
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-322-91268-8
(Fachwörterbuch Bauwesen / Dictionary Building and Civil Engineering, Ausgabe 1994
ohne kostenpflichtigen Download 62.99 € nicht zu öffnen)

Anm.: offensichtlich Vorgänger des o.g. Fachwörterbuch Architektur und Bauwesens, da gleiche Verfasser.

e non-bonded joint
d Knirschfuge f, Trockenfuge
f joint m (de maçonnerie) sec
https://books.google.de/books?id=UU3qCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA424&lpg=P...
(Dictionary of Building and Civil Engineering: English, German, French, Dutch ...)

Der Torbergfried wurde anders als die restliche Burganlage komplett aus Sandstein aufgemauert und ist vollständig mit Buckelquadern verblendet. Die Buckel springen stark hervor (Prallbuckel), zwischen den Quadern sind sogenannte Knirschfugen erkennbar.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burg_Salzburg

Why Are There Dry Joints in My Brick Walls?
:
I’m adding a third floor. Upon removing the drywall, I came across an unusual (and disturbing) detail in the brick masonry. Every 32 in. or so up the wall, there is a dry joint between the brick courses with no mortar whatsoever. After noticing this in my building, I have seen identical conditions in several other buildings in town that have exposed original brick walls.
:
Brent Hull, a nationally recognized authority on historic design, responds: There are a few possibilities for these dry joints. First, …
https://www.finehomebuilding.com/2019/01/12/dry-joints-in-br...

dry joint / A joint without mortar or adhesive.
(The Penguin, Dicionary of Building)

Johannes Gleim
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Native speaker of: German
PRO pts in category: 51
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