Jul 27, 2005 00:05
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Last one for tonight! ;-)
Maybe I've just been looking at this too long, but I can't make sense of the bit in asterisks!
"Das Konzil [of Constance] ist jetzt unmittelbar Christus untergeordnet und ***läuft dadurch dem Papst den höchsten Rang ab***."
The Council is now directly subordinate[?] to Jesus Christ and ...what about the Pope?
Many thanks for all your help!
Maybe I've just been looking at this too long, but I can't make sense of the bit in asterisks!
"Das Konzil [of Constance] ist jetzt unmittelbar Christus untergeordnet und ***läuft dadurch dem Papst den höchsten Rang ab***."
The Council is now directly subordinate[?] to Jesus Christ and ...what about the Pope?
Many thanks for all your help!
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +3 | displacing the Pope |
Francis Lee (X)
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| 3 +3 | makes him second in line/puts him in second place |
Anne-Carine Zimmer
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| 3 +1 | supersede |
Lancashireman
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| 3 | abolish/do away with |
Fantutti (X)
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Proposed translations
+3
9 hrs
Selected
displacing the Pope
displacing the Pope as the highest authority
I also found this (not strictly the same, but ...):
"The first - Sacrosancta - declared that the Council of Constance derives its power directly from Christ and that its authority is superior even to that of the See of Rome."
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/constance1.html
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Note added at 10 hrs 7 mins (2005-07-27 10:12:31 GMT)
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i.e. it had supreme authority
... assumed supreme authority (ahead of the Pope).
... assumed the supreme authority hitherto enjoyed by the Pope.
I also found this (not strictly the same, but ...):
"The first - Sacrosancta - declared that the Council of Constance derives its power directly from Christ and that its authority is superior even to that of the See of Rome."
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/constance1.html
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Note added at 10 hrs 7 mins (2005-07-27 10:12:31 GMT)
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i.e. it had supreme authority
... assumed supreme authority (ahead of the Pope).
... assumed the supreme authority hitherto enjoyed by the Pope.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Graded automatically based on peer agreement."
+3
3 mins
Anne-Carine Zimmer
United States
United States
Works in field
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Works in: German to English, English to German, Spanish to English, and 3 more.
makes him second in line/puts him in second place
that is the idea
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Note added at 4 mins (2005-07-27 00:09:28 GMT)
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= he loses the highest rank/he is outranked by them
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Note added at 4 mins (2005-07-27 00:09:28 GMT)
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= he loses the highest rank/he is outranked by them
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Ulrike Kraemer
: That's it.
8 hrs
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| agree |
USER00230 (X)
8 hrs
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| agree |
Mario Marcolin
9 hrs
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| neutral |
Francis Lee (X)
: "second in line" sounds like an order of succession (not power), "second place" rather informal (sports) and (out)"rank" military
9 hrs
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I can see your point, my suggestions were more to explain the idea and maybe inspire her to find the 'perfect translation' :-)
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+1
5 mins
Lancashireman
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Related KudoZ points
:
252
supersede
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Note added at 11 mins (2005-07-27 00:16:39 GMT)
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http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q="superseded in rank"&...
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Note added at 15 mins (2005-07-27 00:21:18 GMT)
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tr.v. su·per·sed·ed, su·per·sed·ing, su·per·sedes
1. To take the place of; replace.
2. To cause to be set aside, especially to displace as inferior or antiquated
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/supersede
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Francis Lee (X)
: or: "in effect displacing the Pope (as the highest authority)"?
7 hrs
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2 hrs
abolish/do away with
The Council abolishes/does away with papal supremacy.
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