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Unternehmer

English translation: Contractor

GLOSSARY ENTRY (DERIVED FROM QUESTION BELOW)
German term or phrase: Unternehmer
English translation:Contractor
Entered by: Laura Massey

08:47 Jun 25, 2015
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) / Terms and Conditions document
German term or phrase: Unternehmer
This is from the first line of a general terms and conditions document. The context is:

Diese Geschäftsbedingungen finden Anwendung gegenüber einer Person, die bei Abschluss des Vertrages als Unternehmer handelt und gegenüber juristischen Personen des öffentlichen Rechts oder einem öffentlich-rechtlichen Sondervermögen.


I need a bit of advice re what an "Unternehmer" is in this context and specifically how to render the phrase: "die bei Abschluss des Vertrages als Unternehmer handelt"

Many thanks
Laura Massey
United Kingdom
Local time: 16:38
Contractor
Explanation:
suggestion
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Katarina Peters
Canada
Local time: 11:38
Grading comment
Thanks very much for this suggestion. It fits well with the context.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4Contractor
Katarina Peters
4 +1business
Thomas Roberts
2 +3entrepreneur
Jonathan MacKerron
3 +1(acting in) an entrepreneurial capacity
Michael Martin, MA
4businessperson
TechLawDC


Discussion entries: 1





  

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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
business


Explanation:
I think it simply means that it relates to persons acting in the capacity as a business (and not a private individual).

Thomas Roberts
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 40

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Edgar Bettridge: "and not a private individual" - OK think I see what you mean, but I also think that this does refer to a natural person (who happens to be a business person i.e. could be a sole trader) as opposed to a "juristische"/legal Person
24 mins
  -> but isn't it implicit in the rest of the sentence that it can also refer to a natural person ("...gegenüber einer Person...").
agree  Paul Skidmore: This also coincides with the BGB definition (in section 14) of "unternehmer" which includes both natural and legal persons
4 hrs
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39 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +3
entrepreneur


Explanation:
is sometimes used for this, or 'person acting as an entrepreneur'

Jonathan MacKerron
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 158

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Frosty: Indubitably - the entities after the 'and' would be 'legal bodies', 'body corporate', 'juristic persons' or some such term.
50 mins
agree  Henry Schroeder: Also definitely possible
5 hrs
agree  Сергей Лузан: Quite likely. The first thing that springs to mind.
9 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
(acting in) an entrepreneurial capacity


Explanation:
..springs to mind..

https://books.google.com/books?id=ZG3aRQq5r7IC&pg=PA815&lpg=...

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 11:38
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 245

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Edgar Bettridge
1 hr
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
Contractor


Explanation:
suggestion

Katarina Peters
Canada
Local time: 11:38
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in HungarianHungarian, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 13
Grading comment
Thanks very much for this suggestion. It fits well with the context.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AllegroTrans
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Allegro!
agree  philgoddard
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Phil
agree  Henry Schroeder
3 hrs
  -> Thank you, Henry
agree  Eleanore Strauss
1 day 1 hr
  -> Thank you, Elli
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
businessperson


Explanation:
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Definition from Merriam-Webster:
a person who works in business especially in a high position.
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"Entrepreneur" is definitely incorrect, as being too narrow!
Definition of entrepreneur, which is quite different:
A a person who organizes and operates a business or businesses, taking on greater than normal financial risks in order to do so.

TechLawDC
United States
Local time: 11:38
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 65
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