Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Beschlussverfahren
English translation:
(labour) court or arbitration proceedings
Added to glossary by
Marc Svetov
Jan 10, 2013 21:53
11 yrs ago
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German term
United States
Beschlussverfahren
German to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Labor law
"Als Anwalt ist man oft in der schwierigen Situation, von Unternehmen erst dann eingeschaltet zu werden, wenn ein Klage- oder Beschlussverfahren bereits anhängig ist."
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +3 | (labour) court proceedings |
Paul Skidmore
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| 3 +1 | order procedure |
Michael Martin, MA
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| 4 -3 | decision-making procedure |
Ellen Kraus
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| 3 -2 | if a proceeding or a decision is pending |
Kalyani Gadre
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Proposed translations
+3
12 hrs
Paul Skidmore
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Specializes in field
Germany
Legally qualified - 12 years in academia
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
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200
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(labour) court proceedings
Depending on the nature of the text, I would probably gloss over this German distinction between Klage- and Beschlussverfahren.
As far as I can see the quote is simply to trying to say that it's not easy for lawyers if companies only turn to them for advice once they face proceedings in court.
As far as I can see the quote is simply to trying to say that it's not easy for lawyers if companies only turn to them for advice once they face proceedings in court.
Note from asker:
| Thanks. |
| Thanks! |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
-3
27 mins
Ellen Kraus
Austria
Austria
Native in German
Specializes in field
Austria
more than thirty years of experience
Native in: German 
Works in: Greek to German, English to German, Greek to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
308
decision-making procedure
I´d say
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Note added at 35 Min. (2013-01-10 22:28:55 GMT)
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see the numerous links related to "judicial decision-making process", such as e.g.SE Lawrence - No.: ISBN 0-691-07855-6, 1990 - ncjrs.gov
... Title: Poor in Court: The Legal Services Program and Supreme Court Decision Making. ... Annotation:
In examining the participation of Legal Services Program attorneys and clients in the US Supreme
Court's decisionmaking process, both as petitioners and respondents, this study
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Note added at 35 Min. (2013-01-10 22:28:55 GMT)
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see the numerous links related to "judicial decision-making process", such as e.g.SE Lawrence - No.: ISBN 0-691-07855-6, 1990 - ncjrs.gov
... Title: Poor in Court: The Legal Services Program and Supreme Court Decision Making. ... Annotation:
In examining the participation of Legal Services Program attorneys and clients in the US Supreme
Court's decisionmaking process, both as petitioners and respondents, this study
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: it's certainly what 'is said' on Linguee. does this really fit the German context:http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beschlussverfahren
32 mins
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as your link clearly says (I didnt consult Linguee!), Beschluss is anything but a judgment (a court´s decision, order or ruling, a judicial writ or a judicial decree.
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Kim Metzger
: Labour court proceedings, not procedure. http://www.schiedermair.com/en/competences/individual-and-co...
15 hrs
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| disagree |
Cetacea
: Agree with Kim.
18 hrs
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| disagree |
AllegroTrans
: All judicial procedures are "decision-making" in one way or another
20 hrs
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+1
3 hrs
Michael Martin, MA
United States
United States
Native in German
&
English
Specializes in field
United States
Creativity wins in the long run
Native in: German (Variant: Germany) , English (Variant: US)
Works in: German to English
Related KudoZ points
:
364
order procedure
I found at least 4 different terms for this.. There may have been more but I had to draw a line somewhere..
1. "Under the provisions of this section, special-court proceedings
(Beschlussverfahren) apply in which the labor court will resolve differences of opinion that have arisen"
out of the interpretation of the BPersVG.
http://www2.ambrac.nl/kli-ka-csg/document.aspx?id=ipn30936#
2. "Another special feature of labour court procedures is the differentiation between judgements procedures (“Urteilsverfahren”, sections 2, 46 ff. ArbGG) and order procedures (“Beschlussverfahren”, sections 2a, 80 ff. ArbGG)."
http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_dialogue/---di...
3. The adjudication-trial (Beschlussverfahren, §§ 2a, 80 ff.
ArbGG) is for collective labour law."
http://www.law.ntu.edu.tw/ntulawreview/articles/7-2/1-Articl...
4. While under the old law requests for the setting aside of an award had to be brought by a way of an action and resulted in a judgment (Klageverfahren), they are now initiated by an application and the decisions are issued in the form of an order (Beschlussverfahren).
http://www2.ambrac.nl/kli-ka-csg/document.aspx?id=ipn30936#
1. "Under the provisions of this section, special-court proceedings
(Beschlussverfahren) apply in which the labor court will resolve differences of opinion that have arisen"
out of the interpretation of the BPersVG.
http://www2.ambrac.nl/kli-ka-csg/document.aspx?id=ipn30936#
2. "Another special feature of labour court procedures is the differentiation between judgements procedures (“Urteilsverfahren”, sections 2, 46 ff. ArbGG) and order procedures (“Beschlussverfahren”, sections 2a, 80 ff. ArbGG)."
http://www.ilo.org/wcmsp5/groups/public/---ed_dialogue/---di...
3. The adjudication-trial (Beschlussverfahren, §§ 2a, 80 ff.
ArbGG) is for collective labour law."
http://www.law.ntu.edu.tw/ntulawreview/articles/7-2/1-Articl...
4. While under the old law requests for the setting aside of an award had to be brought by a way of an action and resulted in a judgment (Klageverfahren), they are now initiated by an application and the decisions are issued in the form of an order (Beschlussverfahren).
http://www2.ambrac.nl/kli-ka-csg/document.aspx?id=ipn30936#
Peer comment(s):
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Kim Metzger
: Not "procedure" http://www.schiedermair.com/en/competences/individual-and-co...
12 hrs
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With this being ranked first among my sources, I agree I should have put it in the entry line as well..
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Teresa Reinhardt
: I would use No. 2 AND also include the German term (Besch....)
15 hrs
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Thanks, Teresa.
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-2
17 hrs
Kalyani Gadre
India
India
Native in English
Works in field
India
Perfectionist in evry sense w 14 yrs exp
Native in: English , Marathi
Works in: German to English, French to English, German to Hindi, and 3 more.
if a proceeding or a decision is pending
I think a simple decision or proceeding is what they are trying to say.
Klageverfahren is indicating proceedings
http://www.think-global.com/tools/sb/deen/dict_DE-EN.php.htm
and Beschlussverfahren a decision taking step.
Klageverfahren is indicating proceedings
http://www.think-global.com/tools/sb/deen/dict_DE-EN.php.htm
and Beschlussverfahren a decision taking step.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Kim Metzger
: Beschlussverfahren - labour court proceedings in this case
13 mins
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| disagree |
Cetacea
: Beschlussverfahren - labour court proceedings in this case
1 hr
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Reference comments
11 mins
AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois)
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Related KudoZ points
:
165
Reference:
First step - google it up to see if there is a definition or reference available
Beschlussverfahren – Wikipedia
Das Beschlussverfahren in Deutschland ist ein Verfahren in der Arbeitsgerichtsbarkeit, in welchem über kollektivrechtliche Streitigkeiten, zum Beispiel im ...
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beschlussverfahren - Cached
Das Beschlussverfahren in Deutschland ist ein Verfahren in der Arbeitsgerichtsbarkeit, in welchem über kollektivrechtliche Streitigkeiten, zum Beispiel im ...
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beschlussverfahren - Cached
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