im ordo

English translation: [man\'s place] in the order of things

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German term or phrase:im ordo
English translation:[man\'s place] in the order of things
Entered by: Alexander Schleber

11:01 Nov 17, 2020
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Linguistics / possible a Latin term used in German
German term or phrase: im ordo
"Überall und zu allen Zeiten haben die Dämonen im Dunkeln gelautet auf die Stunde, da der Mensch schwach wird, da er seine ihm von Gott auf Freiheit gegründete Stellung im ordo eigenmächtig verlässt, da er dem Druck des Bösen nachgibt, sich von den Mächten höherer Ordnung loslöst und so, nachdem er den ersten Schritt freiwillig getan, zum zweiten und dritten und immer mehr getrieben wird mit rasend steigender Geschwindigkeit."

This is an excerpt from a text, from the 4th leaflet of the White Rose, and anti-Nazi resistance group, which was especially active in Munich in 1942 and after. In the spring of 1943, the White Rose was uncovered and arrested by the Gestapo, and its most prominent members were subsequently sentenced to death by the Voksgerichtshof under Freisler, after which they were executed.

I have the feeling that the term "im ordo" may come from a Latin.
Can anyone help me with the meaning of these words, in the above-mentioned context.

TIA
Alexander
Alexander Schleber
Belgium
Local time: 21:02
[man's place] in the order of things
Explanation:
52 examples here: https://www.google.com/search?q="man's place in the order of...

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Note added at 1 hr (2020-11-17 12:33:38 GMT)
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[man's place] in the universal order
19 examples: https://www.google.com/search?q="man's place in the universa...

Alternatively, '[man's place] in God's order', except that you already have 'God' in your sentence.
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Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:02
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3[man's place] in the order of things
Lancashireman
Summary of reference entries provided
an idea
polyglot45
José Patrício
Veronika Neuhold

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
[man's place] in the order of things


Explanation:
52 examples here: https://www.google.com/search?q="man's place in the order of...

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Note added at 1 hr (2020-11-17 12:33:38 GMT)
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[man's place] in the universal order
19 examples: https://www.google.com/search?q="man's place in the universa...

Alternatively, '[man's place] in God's order', except that you already have 'God' in your sentence.


Lancashireman
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:02
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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Grading comment
Thanks to all for your help!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Veronika Neuhold: ordo rerum
12 mins
  -> Thanks. The author does indeed seem to have abbreviated the Latin term.

agree  Michael Martin, MA
1 hr

agree  thefastshow
2 hrs
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Reference comments


14 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: an idea

Reference information:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo

polyglot45
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in FrenchFrench
Note to reference poster
Asker: Thank you very much, that is certainly a help!


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agree  Veronika Neuhold: ordo universi/creationis
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Reference

Reference information:
https://www.frag-caesar.de/lateinwoerterbuch/ordo-uebersetzu...

José Patrício
Portugal
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
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Asker: Also very helpful. Thanks!

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1 hr peer agreement (net): +2
Reference

Reference information:
https://www.zeit.de/1953/19/der-neu-entfachte-universalienst...

"Ordo ist einer der ranghöchsten Symbolbegriffe der scholastischen Metaphysik. Ordo in der Verbindung von ordo creationis, ordo universi oder ordo rerum meint die Ordnung und Stufung des Seins im Sinne einer vorgegebenen Korrelation aller Einzelerscheinungen der empirischen Welt. Ordo ist also im Gegensatz zu den vom Menschen gesetzten Satzungen und Normen etwas "a priori" in den Dingen Liegendes."

Veronika Neuhold
Austria
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Lancashireman
4 mins
agree  thefastshow: Wunderbares Zitat ... der "a priori" Gedanke erscheint mir im Bezug auf den Text des Fragestellers aeusserst wichtig.
1 hr
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