(um wie...) ins Wort zu reden

English translation: speak against / counter

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German term or phrase:(um wie...) ins Wort zu reden
English translation:speak against / counter
Entered by: Bernhard Sulzer

00:31 Aug 21, 2010
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Philosophy
German term or phrase: (um wie...) ins Wort zu reden
Humdinger for me:

Das performativ Dokumentarische stellt diesen körperlosen, messenden und „ethnografisch-beobachtenden“ Blick ebenso in Frage wie realistische Referentialität bzw. deren Fragen nach dem „wie es wirklich ist“ und „wie es wirklich passierte“. Blick, Narration, Deskription und Chronik werden jedoch nicht nur selbstreflexiv ausgestellt, um wie im reflexiven Film im Film einem Abbildrealismus ins Wort zu reden, sondern treten in einen multi- und heteroperspektivierten Zusammenhang, mit dem Referentialität neu modelliert wird: Referentialität wird jetzt verstanden als Ereignis in einem diskursiv und ideologisch stets sich ändernden Raum- und Zeitgefüge, aus dem sich Filmer wie Gefilmtes nie zurückziehen können in einen beruhigten Stillstand des einen erklärenden oder referentiellen Grundes.

The fact that I can't find a set expression for "ins Wort zu reden" is complicated by having to match it with a likely physical arrangement of "im reflexiven Film in Film" in exhibition spaces (like those exhibits where video images seem to talk at each other - part of the irony, I guess).

Would really appreciate any help.
Parrot
Spain
Local time: 15:47
speak against
Explanation:
or for this context:

to counter something (here: to counter the "Abbildrealismus")


say something against something
argue against

in the sense of interfere (dreinreden)

goes in the direction suggested by Andrew but more active, actually saying something against/arguing against "Abbildrealismus"

a variation of ins Wort fallen or the opposite of "das Wort reden"

http://www.redensarten-index.de/suche.php?suchbegriff=~~jema...[]=rart_ou

http://www.redensarten-index.de/suche.php?suchbegriff=das Wo...[]=rart_ou

http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/search?sourceoverride...
dreinreden

http://www.hausarbeiten.de/faecher/vorschau/102866.html
Nietzsche empörte sich über die "unverschämte Willkür der Auslegung" der Bibel durch die christliche Kirche. Er fühlte sich abgestoßen und verachtete die "Kanzelraben", die ihren Vorteil schamlos ausnutzten, da ihnen niemand ins Wort reden durfte.

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-08-21 01:32:11 GMT)
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for the redensarten links: after you get there, just click on "abschicken"

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-08-21 01:39:45 GMT)
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um wie im reflexiven Film im Film einem Abbildrealismus ins Wort zu reden:

(in order) to argue against the representational realism, as it is done in the reflexive film within the film

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-08-21 02:02:17 GMT)
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correcting my phrase: or without "the" in front of Abbildrealismus
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Bernhard Sulzer
United States
Local time: 09:47
Grading comment
Thanks, everybody. I already ran it through the author.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



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speak against


Explanation:
or for this context:

to counter something (here: to counter the "Abbildrealismus")


say something against something
argue against

in the sense of interfere (dreinreden)

goes in the direction suggested by Andrew but more active, actually saying something against/arguing against "Abbildrealismus"

a variation of ins Wort fallen or the opposite of "das Wort reden"

http://www.redensarten-index.de/suche.php?suchbegriff=~~jema...[]=rart_ou

http://www.redensarten-index.de/suche.php?suchbegriff=das Wo...[]=rart_ou

http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/search?sourceoverride...
dreinreden

http://www.hausarbeiten.de/faecher/vorschau/102866.html
Nietzsche empörte sich über die "unverschämte Willkür der Auslegung" der Bibel durch die christliche Kirche. Er fühlte sich abgestoßen und verachtete die "Kanzelraben", die ihren Vorteil schamlos ausnutzten, da ihnen niemand ins Wort reden durfte.

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-08-21 01:32:11 GMT)
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for the redensarten links: after you get there, just click on "abschicken"

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-08-21 01:39:45 GMT)
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um wie im reflexiven Film im Film einem Abbildrealismus ins Wort zu reden:

(in order) to argue against the representational realism, as it is done in the reflexive film within the film

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-08-21 02:02:17 GMT)
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correcting my phrase: or without "the" in front of Abbildrealismus


Bernhard Sulzer
United States
Local time: 09:47
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 24
Grading comment
Thanks, everybody. I already ran it through the author.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Johanna Timm, PhD: nice:-)
36 mins
  -> danke, Johanna!:)

agree  Inge Meinzer: auch mit Johanna
50 mins
  -> danke, Inge!

agree  Rolf Keiser
6 hrs
  -> danke, Goldcoaster!

neutral  Helen Shiner: I disagree with this reading, but if it were chosen by the asker, a more sophisticated way of saying it would perhaps be 'to counter', since 'speak against' in this context would not be the right register.
2 days 6 hrs
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