Knietrümmer

English translation: More to the longer shot

08:52 May 30, 2000
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German term or phrase: Knietrümmer
Afraid there isn´t much context: it appears to relate to the shape of the stems and eyes of a pair of scissors.
Heather
English translation:More to the longer shot
Explanation:
http://www.gruffe.com/pag12/pag12.htm
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This URL shows a picture that is definitely worth at least 1000 of my words. If, and that is a big if, that is what your German author is talking about, then they are simply called "bent" scissors. -

Here is even a "scissors glossary" by a scissors manufacturer in Ohio. -

http://www.claussco.com/glossary.htm -

They say that the things we have been calling "eyes" are called "bows" but that the Italians had it right with "bent" scissors versus "straight" scissors.

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Dan McCrosky (X)
Local time: 12:47
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Excellent, thanks! :-) Admittedly I´ll stick to "eyes" rather than "bows", because my customer is one of the Solingen cutting tools companies and so most of my research is being done among the Solingen websites, where the reference to "eyes" comes again and again (although I admit that even in German, they can be called "Ringen" as well as "Augen"...).
However, the rest is a big help.
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Summary of answers provided
naSpeaking of Solingen,
Dan McCrosky (X)
naMore to the longer shot
Dan McCrosky (X)
naAn even longer shot
Dan McCrosky (X)
naA longshot, but...
William Scheckel (X)


  

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38 mins
A longshot, but...


Explanation:
According to Ernst, "Kniestück" can mean a goose-neck (or simply a knee/elbow piece). I'd suggest basing your translation on that definition (perhaps by "Trümmer" they mean a small piece).
Sorry I can't be more certain, but maybe this will inspire you to something more elegant. Will

William Scheckel (X)
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4 hrs
An even longer shot


Explanation:
An even longer shot… - "Knietrümmer" does not show up anywhere. Neither does "Trümmerknie" – Knie and Trümmer are both there though. – Now here comes the longer shot. A "Trümmerbruch" is a shattered bone fracture, a comminuted fracture. If one had a shattered knee, the leg could look like a mild zigzag or swan-neck, but not so exaggerated, like these tailoring shears where the zigzag or swan-neck raises the eyes an inch or so up from the cutting surface. Oh well, never mind, it is getting late here in Germany.

Dan McCrosky (X)
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15 hrs
More to the longer shot


Explanation:
http://www.gruffe.com/pag12/pag12.htm
-
This URL shows a picture that is definitely worth at least 1000 of my words. If, and that is a big if, that is what your German author is talking about, then they are simply called "bent" scissors. -

Here is even a "scissors glossary" by a scissors manufacturer in Ohio. -

http://www.claussco.com/glossary.htm -

They say that the things we have been calling "eyes" are called "bows" but that the Italians had it right with "bent" scissors versus "straight" scissors.



Dan McCrosky (X)
Local time: 12:47
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 1541
Grading comment
Excellent, thanks! :-) Admittedly I´ll stick to "eyes" rather than "bows", because my customer is one of the Solingen cutting tools companies and so most of my research is being done among the Solingen websites, where the reference to "eyes" comes again and again (although I admit that even in German, they can be called "Ringen" as well as "Augen"...).
However, the rest is a big help.
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17 hrs
Speaking of Solingen,


Explanation:
you must already have found these two pages: -



http://www.zwilling-solingen.com/d/frame_scheren.html -

and -

http://www.j-a-henckels.com/e/frame_scheren.html -

Some of the English sounds a little "Deulish" but there is a lot of terminology.

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