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English translation: positive die

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German term or phrase:Positivstock
English translation:positive die
Entered by: Rolf Bueskens
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23:07 Mar 24, 2003
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary / History of coins in antiquity
German term or phrase: Positivstoecke (sentence)
Zur Herstellung von Stempeln fuer Massenpraegungen koennten bereits in vorroem. Zeit Punzen (Patrizen; Positivstoecke) mit Teilen des Muenzbilds oder der Legende verwendet worden sein.
Rolf Bueskens
Local time: 12:07
positive die
Explanation:
I'm not absolutely certain about this, but it seems to be a good possibility. The German word should be Positivstücke.

"Even from the earliest times, coins were struck with 2 coining dies – a lower die depicting the coin in a negative form, and a similar upper die. The coin blank was then placed between these two dies and the upper die struck with a heavy hammer, thus rendering a positive image on the blank. The hammer method was used a long way into the Middle Ages. Even now we occasionally speak of coins being struck.

http://www.mayermint.com/Knowledge/MakingCoin/MakingCoin.asp


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Note added at 2003-03-25 00:08:09 (GMT)
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I carved a matrix (master die) for the eagle, and from it raised a positive patrix which was used to sink the portrait of Liberty into the obverse dies

http://www.coin-gallery.com/gmm/gmmart3.htm


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Note added at 2003-03-25 00:14:16 (GMT)
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From \"The Art and Craft of Coinmaking...A History of Minting Technology\":

The master was hand-engraved in incuse relief...The master, known as a \"matrix\", was cut in a block of the new steel, hardened, and placed in amore powerful and larger screw, or hobbing press; here it was used as a die to cold-forge its impression onto the polished coned surface of a similar piece of steel known as a \"patrix\", or working punch. This punch was hardened and then used for striking production dies in negative. ....Striking punches from matrices, and dies from punches involved much heavier blows from those needed for striking the coins of the same design. The steel die blank needed two or three times the force required for striking, and all but the smallest dies were struck with a number of blows.

http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/ceilidh/d19d3203IGz-3913...
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Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 21:07
Grading comment
Thanks for your help. I think, though, that -stoecke as in the original is OK.
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positive die


Explanation:
I'm not absolutely certain about this, but it seems to be a good possibility. The German word should be Positivstücke.

"Even from the earliest times, coins were struck with 2 coining dies – a lower die depicting the coin in a negative form, and a similar upper die. The coin blank was then placed between these two dies and the upper die struck with a heavy hammer, thus rendering a positive image on the blank. The hammer method was used a long way into the Middle Ages. Even now we occasionally speak of coins being struck.

http://www.mayermint.com/Knowledge/MakingCoin/MakingCoin.asp


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Note added at 2003-03-25 00:08:09 (GMT)
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I carved a matrix (master die) for the eagle, and from it raised a positive patrix which was used to sink the portrait of Liberty into the obverse dies

http://www.coin-gallery.com/gmm/gmmart3.htm


--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2003-03-25 00:14:16 (GMT)
--------------------------------------------------


From \"The Art and Craft of Coinmaking...A History of Minting Technology\":

The master was hand-engraved in incuse relief...The master, known as a \"matrix\", was cut in a block of the new steel, hardened, and placed in amore powerful and larger screw, or hobbing press; here it was used as a die to cold-forge its impression onto the polished coned surface of a similar piece of steel known as a \"patrix\", or working punch. This punch was hardened and then used for striking production dies in negative. ....Striking punches from matrices, and dies from punches involved much heavier blows from those needed for striking the coins of the same design. The steel die blank needed two or three times the force required for striking, and all but the smallest dies were struck with a number of blows.

http://www.bonnydoonengineering.com/ceilidh/d19d3203IGz-3913...



    Reference: http://www.mayermint.com/Knowledge/MakingCoin/MakingCoin.asp
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 21:07
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 21837
Grading comment
Thanks for your help. I think, though, that -stoecke as in the original is OK.
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