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verhandlungssicher

English translation: advanced working knowledge

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German term or phrase:verhandlungssicher
English translation:advanced working knowledge
Entered by: Ralf Lemster
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02:14 Aug 17, 2001
German to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Education / Pedagogy
German term or phrase: verhandlungssicher
referring to language skills
Ralf Lemster
Germany
Local time: 21:56
"(to be) able to bargain/negotiate/conduct business negotiations (in Chinese/English/German)
Explanation:
I ran into this term a while back in discussions with German customers who were talking about important attributes needed for their jobs as key account managers for an oil-multi. They explained what they meant by the term as follows:

Someone who is "verhandlungssicher" can carry out the negations and reach the desired result (push through a price increase, achieve more favorable delivery or payment terms, sell the product, etc.).

If a German says someone is "verhandlungssicher" it is very, very positive. Apparently, not too many people have this quality. I know I don't.

I asked if it meant that they always get the order. The answer was "No", but the person who was "verhandlungssicher" knew before the negations started whether s/he would get the order or not.

?????????

That made no sense to me, so I gave up.

At any rate, they did not appear to think it was only a language skill attribute because they were not talking about any particular language or pair of languages. They seemed to feel it was more of knack for bargaining, knowing when to say what.

I would not use this translation:

http://www.hs-soft.com/English/e_Karriere_job_DE.htm

Communicative, business fluent and assertive

=

kommunikativ, verhandlungssicher und durchsetzungsstark

This site is better, but still not really strong enough:

http://www.ceotronics.com/bewfrag.htm

Sprachkenntnisse =language skills

advanced working knowledge = verhandlungssicher

You will probably need a phrase in English, depending on your context, something like:

"to possess negotiating/bargaining competence/skill/talent (in Chinese/English/German)"

or

"bargaining/negotiation competence level (in Chinese/English/German)"

or

"(to be) able to bargain/negotiate/conduct business negotiations (in Chinese/English/German)"

HTH

Dan

Selected response from:

Dan McCrosky
Local time: 21:56
Grading comment
Excellent background info - thanks!
(BTW I think "advanced working knowledge" works here.)
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

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Summary of answers provided
na +1reliable negotiator
Mats Wiman
na"(to be) able to bargain/negotiate/conduct business negotiations (in Chinese/English/German)Dan McCrosky
naadvanced working knowledge
Mary Worby


  

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5 mins peer agreement (net): +1
reliable negotiator


Explanation:
or
proficient/skilled/experienced negotiator


    Norstedts+MW
Mats Wiman
Sweden
Local time: 21:56
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SwedishSwedish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sarah Downing: Skilled (or even talented) negotiator sounds good to me.
1 hr
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12 mins
advanced working knowledge


Explanation:
see link below:

http://www.ceotronics.com/bewfrag.htm

HTH

Mary


    as above
Mary Worby
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:56
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
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1 hr
"(to be) able to bargain/negotiate/conduct business negotiations (in Chinese/English/German)


Explanation:
I ran into this term a while back in discussions with German customers who were talking about important attributes needed for their jobs as key account managers for an oil-multi. They explained what they meant by the term as follows:

Someone who is "verhandlungssicher" can carry out the negations and reach the desired result (push through a price increase, achieve more favorable delivery or payment terms, sell the product, etc.).

If a German says someone is "verhandlungssicher" it is very, very positive. Apparently, not too many people have this quality. I know I don't.

I asked if it meant that they always get the order. The answer was "No", but the person who was "verhandlungssicher" knew before the negations started whether s/he would get the order or not.

?????????

That made no sense to me, so I gave up.

At any rate, they did not appear to think it was only a language skill attribute because they were not talking about any particular language or pair of languages. They seemed to feel it was more of knack for bargaining, knowing when to say what.

I would not use this translation:

http://www.hs-soft.com/English/e_Karriere_job_DE.htm

Communicative, business fluent and assertive

=

kommunikativ, verhandlungssicher und durchsetzungsstark

This site is better, but still not really strong enough:

http://www.ceotronics.com/bewfrag.htm

Sprachkenntnisse =language skills

advanced working knowledge = verhandlungssicher

You will probably need a phrase in English, depending on your context, something like:

"to possess negotiating/bargaining competence/skill/talent (in Chinese/English/German)"

or

"bargaining/negotiation competence level (in Chinese/English/German)"

or

"(to be) able to bargain/negotiate/conduct business negotiations (in Chinese/English/German)"

HTH

Dan



Dan McCrosky
Local time: 21:56
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20
Grading comment
Excellent background info - thanks!
(BTW I think "advanced working knowledge" works here.)
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Sep 14, 2007 - Changes made by Kim Metzger:
FieldOther » Social Sciences
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