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fuer und gegen sich wirksam werden zu lassen

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04:06 Aug 29, 2000
German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents
German term or phrase: fuer und gegen sich wirksam werden zu lassen
A peice of legal jargon from the articles of partnership of a company.
context:
Auch darf der Gessellschafter in dem Gegenstand des Unternehmens der Gessellschaft bildenden Geschaeftsbereich weder Geschaefte fuer eigene Rechnung abschliessen noch sich hieran beteiligen. Kommen Geschaeftsabschluesse der bezeichneten Art gleichwohl auf Veranlassung eines Gesellschafters mit diesem zustande, gelten diese als mit der Gesellschaft abgeschlossen, falls die Gessellschaft hierueber einen entsprechenden Beschluss fasst. Als solche hat der Gesellschafter sie alsdann fuer und gegen sich wirksam werden zu lassen.

If anyone can help me here, I would be very grateful.
Tim Drayton
Cyprus
Local time: 20:40
English translation:see below
Explanation:
wirksam werden (jur.)=to come(enter)
into force, to inure, to take effect,
to become operative.
fuer und gegen sich=for and against himself/herself
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Elisabeth Moser
United States
Local time: 13:40
Grading comment
Thanks for your reply. I can, in fact, grasp all of these points. What I can't, from a logical point of view, is understand how a decision can act both in somebody's favour and against them at the same time. Anyhow, it is not up to me to actually make sense of the agreement.
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Tom Funke
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Elisabeth Moser
na"to take effect in his favour or against him"Barbara Schmidt-Runkel


  

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27 mins
"to take effect in his favour or against him"


Explanation:
It means basically that the partner can't do any private work on company time or premises, and if he made any deals anyway, they will be taken as made in the name of the company, if the company agrees. In that case, the partner (who originally tried to make the deal privately) is bound by the arrangement with the company. This is all a bit convaluted; you'll have to supply the proper "legalese" yourself.


    good ol' Langenscheidt ("wirksam")
Barbara Schmidt-Runkel
Local time: 19:40
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in pair: 22
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2 hrs
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Explanation:
wirksam werden (jur.)=to come(enter)
into force, to inure, to take effect,
to become operative.
fuer und gegen sich=for and against himself/herself


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Elisabeth Moser
United States
Local time: 13:40
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in pair: 772
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Thanks for your reply. I can, in fact, grasp all of these points. What I can't, from a logical point of view, is understand how a decision can act both in somebody's favour and against them at the same time. Anyhow, it is not up to me to actually make sense of the agreement.
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3 hrs
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Explanation:
For what it's worth: AltaVista (German:) "für und gegen sich": 13 pages found. "Für und gegen sich wirksam" No pages found. "für und gegen sich gelten [lassen]" 6 pages found. ---Maybe some of these can shed some more light on your can of words.


    Reference: http://herberger.jura.uni-sb.de/Lehrstuhl/Examensklausurenku...
    Reference: http://www.raekoeve.de/jahr2000.htm
Tom Funke
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Native speaker of: English
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