in Rechten klagend

English translation: on its own grounds

19:32 Jan 10, 2002

German to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents

German term or phrase: in Rechten klagend

In a patent relating to trademark rights: "Wenn die Erstklägerin und mit ihr auch die in ihren Rechten klagende Zweitklägerin in Deutschlad berechtigt ist, die Firma "JMF" gegenüber dem Neumarkt zu führen und ihre Erzeugnisse entsprechend zu kennzeichnen ... "

Vadney (X)

English translation:on its own grounds

Explanation:
Harold,it appears to me from your context that plaintiff No. 1 and plaintiff No.2 have brought suit - although against the same defendant(s) -but each plaintiff on its own grounds.

The formulation "und mit ihr die in ihren Rechten klagende Zweitklaegerin" makes clear that the wording "in ihren Rechten klagende" refers only to plaintiff No. 2 - not also to plaintiff No. 1.

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Beate Boudro (X)
United States
Local time: 23:38

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co-plaintiff

Astrid Elke Witte

4 +1

second plaintiff

Beate Lutzebaeck

on its own grounds

Beate Boudro (X)

First-named Plaintiff and Second-named Plaintiff

Dr. Fred Thomson

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9 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

co-plaintiff

Explanation:
Should the first plaintiff and co-plaintiff be entitled in Germany to...

Astrid Elke Witte
Germany
Local time: 07:38
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in pair: 578

33 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

second plaintiff

Explanation:
"in seinen Rechten klagen" means the same as "seine Rechte einklagen" or simply "klagen". A "in seinen Rechten klagender Zweitkläger" literally means "the second plaintiff bringing the suit" which, in English, sounds even more "doppeltgemoppelt" than in German. I would therefore translate it simply as "second plaintiff".

Alternatively, you could get away with "the second plaintiff enforcing his/their rights", I suppose.

Btw: the German text refers to the second plaintiff as Zweitklägerin (f.) and not Zweitkläger (m.) since they are a company (die Firma).

Prof. exp. as German/NZ lawyer

Beate Lutzebaeck
New Zealand
Local time: 17:38
Native speaker of:

German,

English
PRO pts in pair: 2079

2 hrs confidence:

on its own grounds

Beate Boudro (X)
United States
Local time: 23:38
Native speaker of:

German
PRO pts in pair: 253

3 hrs confidence:

First-named Plaintiff and Second-named Plaintiff

Explanation:
Simply leave out "auch die in ihren Rechten klagend." Second-named Plaintiff would not be a plaintiff if he was asserting a claim for relief.

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Note added at 2002-01-11 05:20:33 (GMT)
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Sorry! I meant if he were NOT asserting a claim for relief.

Dr. Fred Thomson
United States
Local time: 23:38
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 5861

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