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19:22 Feb 19, 2009
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German to English translations [PRO]
Medical - Medical (general) / autopsy
German term or phrase: Ablederung
From a text from the early 1820s about the role of district medical examiners in relation to the examination of animals wounded by humans.

I understand that the term relates to the removal of skin, but I can only find terms relating to the partial removal of skin and I presume that during an autopsy larger areas of skin, or the entire skin, are/is removed. I know I will kick myself when someone tells me the term, but I just cannot find it, for some reason. Please help.

The context:
Auf die Anfrage der Ostpreussischen Regierung, ob in dergleichen Fällen die Physici nicht schuldig wären, sich der Obduction zu unterziehen und ihr Gutachten abzugeben, respondierte das Obercollegium medicum zu Berlin: daß die Physici vermöge ihres Amtes allerdings dazu verbunden wären. [...citation...] Nach meiner Meinung ist dies zu viel verlangt. Solche Geschäfte gehören für den Tierarzt. Die medizinisch-gerichtliche Ablederung der Thiere mögten wohl sehr wenige Physici verstehen. [End of text]
Helen Shiner
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:54

Summary of answers provided
3 +2skinning
Inge Meinzer
4avulsionEllen Kraus
1 +1Skinning?
Andrew Catford

Discussion entries: 11



22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2

from to skin - abhäuten

    Reference: http://www.dict.cc/?s=skin
Inge Meinzer
United States
Local time: 11:54
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
Notes to answerer
Asker: I was hoping that there would be a more medical term to do with the process of autopsy. It is skinning, but I would hav thought that there would be a term a district medical examiner might use.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrew Catford: We're tripping over each other! I like your answer more than mine!
3 mins
  -> Thank you, Andrew!

agree  Siegfried Armbruster
16 mins
  -> Herzlichen Dank, Siegfried!
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 1/5Answerer confidence 1/5 peer agreement (net): +1

Not-so wild guess, Helen. It's what taxidermists do. Or do you need a more pathology-oriented term?

Example sentence(s):
  • After the hunt, the trappers turned to (the) skinning (of) the carcases.
Andrew Catford
United States
Local time: 12:54
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: I was presuming that there would be a more medical term relating to the process of autopsy. It is certainly skinning, but I doubt that is the term a district medical examiner would use, but maybe I am looking for something more complicated than necessary?

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Inge Meinzer: How could I not? :-)
5 mins
  -> Thank you.

neutral  xxxhazmatgerman: What you mean is often called "(field) dressing" among hunters in the U.S.
13 hrs
  -> I'm knee-deep in elk here. Field dressing includes disposing of the internal organs and, if the animal is too heavy or remote, butchering the carcase. A little more time-consuming than just skinning.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5

Eine Ablederung oder Avulsion bezeichnet das komplette Durchtrennen und Abziehen der ... Ablederungen können z.B. bei Unfällen mit Maschinen entstehen, ...
p5965.typo3server.info/index.php?id=2&uid=1010 - 6k
the tearing off of skin patches

Ellen Kraus
Local time: 20:54
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 335
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Ellen for your answer, but I understand 'avulsion' to be an accidental tearing-away and not the precise removal which would happen during an autopsy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avulsion

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