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17:48 Jun 7, 2000
German to English translations [Non-PRO]
German term or phrase: "kultig": context: (A) Wine (B) Car (C) in gener
Contexts: (A) General context: Travel story. Specific sentence, in part: “Revine-Lago liegt an einer solchen aussichtsreichen Route, die … dem Fluss Soligo folgt und geraden Weges nach Valdobbiadene in eine Region führt, wo der kultige Prosecco fließt. “ (B) Reference to automotive development. Specific sentence, in part: “Der heute schon etwas kultige Xxxzylinder besaß als erster XYZ einen Abgas-Katalysator” . (C) I have found many Web page relating to a diversity of fun, cool, class, vintage etc. things dubbed “kultig” and presumably attracting somewhat of a cult following. What are some of your preferred translations of the term, depending on contexts of your choice?
Tom Funke
English translation:cult
Explanation:
I have been getting into a lot of trouble lately for my guesses and opinions here in the KudoZ system, hope this statement does not upset anyone.
In general I agree with the other answerers. The only difference I can see between kultig and in, or chic, or trendy is that a trendy thing has a large, but not necessarily anspruchsvolle following. Kultig or cult implies that the following may not be so large but the members of the cult certainly are connoisseurs or devotees of what ever we are talking about. Clothing styles of 15 year-old-girls would normally not be called cult clothes but could be in, chic or trendy. It also appears to me that a cult something cannot be very new.
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Dan McCrosky
Local time: 11:24
Grading comment
Almost too closs to call, this one! I graded each response on relevance to each of my three contexts (A,B,C). Dan won by a hair's breadth. I didn't realize how MUCH "cult" is used as an adjective preceding a noun, but my dear wife plus you-all and AltaVista set me right. (AltaVista word count: cult lyricist: 1; cult sculptor: 1; cult architect: 1; cult conductor: 1; cult folk singer: 2; cult chef: 3; cult eatery: 3; cult rock star: 3; cult ship: 4; cult painter: 4; cult beach: 7; cult diva: 8; cult pianist: 8; cult opera: 9; cult train: 9; cult winery: 10; cult destination: 13; cult trip: 14; cult disco: 18; cult composer: 20; cult restaurant: 20; cult actress: 26; cult bar: 27; cult poet: 33; cult location: 42; cult food: 51; cult novelist: 54; cult actor: 123; cult singer: 129; cult wine: 130; cult writer: 164; cult author: 199; cult flick: 217; cult song: 257; cult tour: 285; cult artist: 297; cult car: about 300; cult show: 320; cult star: about 400; cult band: about 1000; cult movie: 7856; cult film: 19663). BTW For the car I used "almost something of a classic" before I knew all this. :) Thanks to you all! Keep up the good work and be kind to your fellow-translators. Tom
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Summary of answers provided
naguess, this really depends ...Roisin
nalegendaryHans-Jakob Wilhelm
nalegendarycindi
naComment on Dan's answerWilliam Scheckel
nain, chic, trendy
Nina Gettler
nacultDan McCrosky
nawith cult appeal or just cult or...William Scheckel


  

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15 mins
with cult appeal or just cult or...


Explanation:
Prosecco has a cult following, other trendy things have cult appeal, a movie that is "kultig" is a cult movie. "Trendy" can seem to derogatory, so I would avoid it when you're not sure if the author means to be tongue-in-cheek. Hope this helps, Will

William Scheckel
Local time: 11:24
PRO pts in pair: 139
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23 mins
in, chic, trendy


Explanation:
I agree with Will that trendy can seem derogatory, but it depends on one's personal opinion. If someone tends to look down on trendy things, then it is. But if someone values trendy things and leads a "trendy" lifestyle, then trendy would be a high compliment.

For Prosecco, I would say trendy. Whether you consider it derogatory or not, trendy is just what it is, these days.

For the car, I would say "xxx which has now become something of a cult object"

hope this helps
Nina

Nina Gettler
Local time: 02:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 36
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3 hrs
cult


Explanation:
I have been getting into a lot of trouble lately for my guesses and opinions here in the KudoZ system, hope this statement does not upset anyone.
In general I agree with the other answerers. The only difference I can see between kultig and in, or chic, or trendy is that a trendy thing has a large, but not necessarily anspruchsvolle following. Kultig or cult implies that the following may not be so large but the members of the cult certainly are connoisseurs or devotees of what ever we are talking about. Clothing styles of 15 year-old-girls would normally not be called cult clothes but could be in, chic or trendy. It also appears to me that a cult something cannot be very new.


Dan McCrosky
Local time: 11:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 1541
Grading comment
Almost too closs to call, this one! I graded each response on relevance to each of my three contexts (A,B,C). Dan won by a hair's breadth. I didn't realize how MUCH "cult" is used as an adjective preceding a noun, but my dear wife plus you-all and AltaVista set me right. (AltaVista word count: cult lyricist: 1; cult sculptor: 1; cult architect: 1; cult conductor: 1; cult folk singer: 2; cult chef: 3; cult eatery: 3; cult rock star: 3; cult ship: 4; cult painter: 4; cult beach: 7; cult diva: 8; cult pianist: 8; cult opera: 9; cult train: 9; cult winery: 10; cult destination: 13; cult trip: 14; cult disco: 18; cult composer: 20; cult restaurant: 20; cult actress: 26; cult bar: 27; cult poet: 33; cult location: 42; cult food: 51; cult novelist: 54; cult actor: 123; cult singer: 129; cult wine: 130; cult writer: 164; cult author: 199; cult flick: 217; cult song: 257; cult tour: 285; cult artist: 297; cult car: about 300; cult show: 320; cult star: about 400; cult band: about 1000; cult movie: 7856; cult film: 19663). BTW For the car I used "almost something of a classic" before I knew all this. :) Thanks to you all! Keep up the good work and be kind to your fellow-translators. Tom
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8 hrs
Comment on Dan's answer


Explanation:
Exactly my thinking, too, Dan. That is why "popular" is definitely not correct. The Greatful Dead have a cult following, Phish is getting one, while the Backstreet Boys are "merely" popular and trendy. (If they are ever considered kulitg, I will stop listening to music.) BTW, tell the rectal-cranial inversions pestering you about your comments to go jump in a lake. - Will

William Scheckel
Local time: 11:24
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8 hrs
legendary


Explanation:
I believe" kultig" means that their are certain rituals involved
otherwise I agree with the others

cindi
Local time: 11:24
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11 hrs
guess, this really depends ...


Explanation:
Hi,

after reading the other opinions I`d like to add that it always depends on the age of the text. "kultig" in the 70`s was nearly everything and used as a substitute for all words referring to something people really liked. Today, it could mean a connection to these times and the mood of life ... on the other hand it may just have the above mentioned meanings. Referred to music it could also be translated with groovy ... just a few thoughts added .-)
Roisin

Roisin
Local time: 11:24
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13 hrs
legendary


Explanation:
It seems to me that in your first example of "kultig", one used to say "sagenumwoben". While this latter word works for a river, it is somewhat too "old" to describe a motor. But the English word, "legendary", works well in both cases.
Cheers,
H-J

Hans-Jakob Wilhelm
United States
Local time: 05:24
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