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English translation: progressive/increasing/growing social isolation

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German term or phrase:Vereinsamung
English translation:progressive/increasing/growing social isolation
Entered by: Dan McCrosky
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06:25 Aug 6, 2001
German to English translations [PRO]
German term or phrase: Vereinsamung
The term is used within a general context about why mobile phones have been (?were?) such a big hit. They helped alleviate "Vereinsamung" in modern society. This is the specific sentence:

Mit dem Abschied der Großfamilie in der Industriegesellschaft, mit dem Wechsel von Wohnorten für einen neuen Job war auch das Phänomen "Vereinsamung" in unsere Gesellschaft eingekehrt.

"isolation", "social isolation", and "loneliness" occur to me, or to give the sense of a worsening situation: "progressive/increasing (social) isolation". These translations were supported by ProZ

Hybrid terms search: Machine translation and previously KudoZ questions

This site indicates that "isolation" may also even be somewhat different than "Vereinsamung", at least in German:

http://www.bfwdd.uni-osnabrueck.de/faecher/klin_ps/schoett/s...

"Gelingt es ihnen nicht, sich ein neues soziales Umfeld zu suchen, wenn ihres sie nicht auffangen kann, führt die HIV-Infektion zur Isolation und Vereinsamung."

I almost submitted this question under medical but was afraid that might be too narrow or too technical. A little psychological, psychiatric, medical, or sociological flavor might be good though.

Reuter & Reuter also show "Vereinsamung" as simply "isolation".

Any better ideas?

TIA

Dan
Dan McCrosky
Local time: 12:41
become increasingly lonely (isolated)
Explanation:
"loneliness" without qualification misses the meaning of the "Ver"-phrase preceding "einsam".
Selected response from:

Alexander Schleber
Belgium
Local time: 12:41
Grading comment
In the end the best translation for "Vereinsamung" still seemed to be "isolation" with the modifiers "progressive" and "social" to indicate what sort of isolation and that it was an ongoing, worsening situation – the "Ver" as Alexander mentioned. "Seclusion" and "solitude" seemed much too positive for this context. Although the NODE definition of "alienation" seemed to fit this situation quite well, I also had the feeling it might be too strong. I was afraid to use "desocialization" and "encapsulation" because I don't understand their meanings well enough to risk a confrontation with some psychologist or socialist out there somewhere.

As far as "Erreichbarkeit" goes, I finally did chicken out on "contactability" or "reachability". I would still have used "reachability", but I was worried that the customer might think it sounded like Deulish. Although I still think either term would be quite OK for any modern English text in any part of the world, in the end I used "reachable" in an imperative sentence. Alexander first mentioned "reachable" but Beth gave me the best references and examples, including the imperative usage.

Source text: 846 keystrokes

Innerhalb weniger Jahre entwickelte sich das Mobile Phone zum Lifestyle product par excellence und bescherte Europa einen eigenen Megamarkt. Was war geschehen. Mit dem Axiom der Telekommunikation "jederzeit, an jedem Ort Sprache, Daten, Bilder zu transportieren" war ein Grundbedürfnis unserer Gesellschaft getroffen worden. Mit dem Abschied der Großfamilie in der Industriegesellschaft, mit dem Wechsel von Wohnorten für einen neuen Job war auch das Phänomen "Vereinsamung" in unsere Gesellschaft eingekehrt. "Erreichbarkeit jederzeit an jedem Ort, um nichts zu verpassen und "in" zu sein, das war die Kauf-Motivation für Hunderte von Millionen Menschen. Die Befriedigung dieses Grundbedürfnisses nach Kommunikation hat den wahren Durchbruch im Mobile Phone Geschäft gebracht hat und nicht der deutlich geringere Anteil der Business Phone User.

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Delivered translation: 752 keystrokes

Within a few years, the mobile phone developed into a lifestyle product par excellence and honored Europe with its very own megamarket. What happened? The telecommunications axiom “transmit speech, data, images, anytime, anyplace” scored a direct hit on a basic need of our society. The leave-taking from large families in the industrialized world and the willingness to relocate for a new job gave birth to the phenomenon of progressive social isolation. Be reachable anytime anywhere, don’t miss anything, be “in”, this was the purchase motivation for hundreds of millions. The satisfaction of this basic human need to communicate caused the real breakthrough in the mobile phone business, not the much smaller business phone user component.

Thank you all for your excellent suggestions and comments.

Dan

4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

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Summary of answers provided
na +3loneliness
Alan Johnson
na +3Isolation
Melanie Sellers
na +1become increasingly lonely (isolated)
Alexander Schleber
naalternativesBeth Kantus
naalienationKevin Schlottmann
na -2seclusion
Kim Metzger


  

Answers


14 mins peer agreement (net): +3
loneliness


Explanation:
Well, not too easy, as you noted. Possibilities:

a feeling of loneliness,
a feeling of solitude,
but isolation isn't a bad choice either.

Alan Johnson
Germany
Local time: 12:41
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 3388

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  DR. RICHARD BAVRY: ja..i think so..tho there is some merit to "isolation" but "loneliness" is more personal and fits nicely
4 mins

agree  beermatt: as you don't have two similar words (Vereinsamung AND Isolation) to disinguish between, 'isolation' should be fine.
6 mins

agree  xxxHenri
8 mins

agree  Sonja Cooper: isolation would be right here
12 mins

disagree  Alexander Schleber: it misses the "increasingly" of "Ver"-einsamung.
38 mins
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22 mins peer agreement (net): -2
seclusion


Explanation:
I agree with Alan that isolation seems very close, but here's a way to avoid the distinction made in German.


    Roget's International Thesaurus
Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 05:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 21844

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Alexander Schleber: einsam = lonely, nort secluded
32 mins

disagree  DR. RICHARD BAVRY: somehow seclusion seems a bit too comfy
40 mins
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23 mins
alienation


Explanation:
Perhaps alienation; this word is often used to describe the feeling caused by the breakdown of community...


    Reading too much Kafka
Kevin Schlottmann
United States
Local time: 06:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 59

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Alexander Schleber: That would be "Entfremdung", which is too striong for loneliness.
31 mins

agree  DR. RICHARD BAVRY: oh hell why not..i like kevin's sense of humor..and what the hell why quibble?
38 mins
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52 mins peer agreement (net): +1
become increasingly lonely (isolated)


Explanation:
"loneliness" without qualification misses the meaning of the "Ver"-phrase preceding "einsam".

Alexander Schleber
Belgium
Local time: 12:41
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in pair: 2340
Grading comment
In the end the best translation for "Vereinsamung" still seemed to be "isolation" with the modifiers "progressive" and "social" to indicate what sort of isolation and that it was an ongoing, worsening situation – the "Ver" as Alexander mentioned. "Seclusion" and "solitude" seemed much too positive for this context. Although the NODE definition of "alienation" seemed to fit this situation quite well, I also had the feeling it might be too strong. I was afraid to use "desocialization" and "encapsulation" because I don't understand their meanings well enough to risk a confrontation with some psychologist or socialist out there somewhere.

As far as "Erreichbarkeit" goes, I finally did chicken out on "contactability" or "reachability". I would still have used "reachability", but I was worried that the customer might think it sounded like Deulish. Although I still think either term would be quite OK for any modern English text in any part of the world, in the end I used "reachable" in an imperative sentence. Alexander first mentioned "reachable" but Beth gave me the best references and examples, including the imperative usage.

Source text: 846 keystrokes

Innerhalb weniger Jahre entwickelte sich das Mobile Phone zum Lifestyle product par excellence und bescherte Europa einen eigenen Megamarkt. Was war geschehen. Mit dem Axiom der Telekommunikation "jederzeit, an jedem Ort Sprache, Daten, Bilder zu transportieren" war ein Grundbedürfnis unserer Gesellschaft getroffen worden. Mit dem Abschied der Großfamilie in der Industriegesellschaft, mit dem Wechsel von Wohnorten für einen neuen Job war auch das Phänomen "Vereinsamung" in unsere Gesellschaft eingekehrt. "Erreichbarkeit jederzeit an jedem Ort, um nichts zu verpassen und "in" zu sein, das war die Kauf-Motivation für Hunderte von Millionen Menschen. Die Befriedigung dieses Grundbedürfnisses nach Kommunikation hat den wahren Durchbruch im Mobile Phone Geschäft gebracht hat und nicht der deutlich geringere Anteil der Business Phone User.

=

Delivered translation: 752 keystrokes

Within a few years, the mobile phone developed into a lifestyle product par excellence and honored Europe with its very own megamarket. What happened? The telecommunications axiom “transmit speech, data, images, anytime, anyplace” scored a direct hit on a basic need of our society. The leave-taking from large families in the industrialized world and the willingness to relocate for a new job gave birth to the phenomenon of progressive social isolation. Be reachable anytime anywhere, don’t miss anything, be “in”, this was the purchase motivation for hundreds of millions. The satisfaction of this basic human need to communicate caused the real breakthrough in the mobile phone business, not the much smaller business phone user component.

Thank you all for your excellent suggestions and comments.

Dan

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  DR. RICHARD BAVRY: i agree with your intensifier "ver" but the matter at hand is a static concept in English
12 mins
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1 hr peer agreement (net): +3
Isolation


Explanation:
This seems to be perfect... reading the remainder of the text I would go with your original choice... isolation.

"Vereinsamung" can be translated as "complete isolation" as well.

:0)

Melanie Sellers
Local time: 12:41
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in pair: 48

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  DR. RICHARD BAVRY: yeah that makes sense too
5 mins

agree  Helga Rhoades: Best answer in context
1 hr

agree  Uschi (Ursula) Walke: would be my answer (I'm always late)
9 hrs
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4 hrs
alternatives


Explanation:
increasing/growing/progressive

isolation, separation, solitude, nuclearization,
desocialization, (personal or social) encapsulation, disconnectedness

isolation or separation seem to be the most neutral terms, but at the same time doesn't it seem a bit unreal to characterize a modern-day, nomadic cell-phone wielding urbanite as isolated?

desocialization could be an apt description of the process in your context, but it sounds a bit harsh and apparently has specific meaning in specialized sociological contexts

social or personal encapsulation seems more on target, but again, the term encapsulation has been used much in connection with cults, etc.

maybe these other terms could be used as alternates within the text to avoid repetition

Good luck!


http://www.ihpnet.org/outcome.htm
The most important potential impact that faith communities can have is not in replacing acute care or even primary care health services but in health education, disease and injury prevention and those activities which reduce the isolation and marginalization of people

http://www.gruppocerfe.org/pdf/english/pfizer/c_parte2.pdf
Solitude is the hardest thing. You know if ...
...
While an adult is a social animal, the elderly person is not. Indeed, aging resembles the progressive construction of a solitary individual. The greatest risk is desocialization, ...

Brook08
... A major problem is that the philosophy of social non-alignment or social encapsulation
and isolation was written by members of the governing body -- the ...
members.nbci.com/Gator999/Brook08.htm - 27k

link5
... The narrator provides enough evidence to confirm Isabel’s self-imposed social encapsulation
as he states that: she had now little free or unemployed emotion ...
hss.fullerton.edu/english/jgass/Ferrada/link5.html - 31k

http://www.patriarch.com/vagabond.html

Intergenerational Programming
... and aging of the society. At the same time, the nuclearization process of families
is contributing towards the isolation of alternate generations in the family ...
www.populationasia.org/intergenerational_programming.htm - 25k



Beth Kantus
United States
Local time: 06:41
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in pair: 924
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