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English translation: M.Sc. (Chemistry)

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11:29 Jul 31, 2000
German to English translations [Non-PRO]
German term or phrase: Diplom-Chemikerin
"Frau Kloppenburgh hat die Diplom-Chemiker-Prüfung bestanded. Aufgrund dieser Leistung wird ihr hiermit der akademische Grad Diplom-Chemikerin verliehen."

The target reader is a US firm. Would we "Frau Kloppenburg passed her examinations in Chemistry". Based on this performace she was awarded a Ph.D. in Chemistry. Is this the equivalent of a Ph.D.?
David Rumsey
English translation:M.Sc. (Chemistry)
Explanation:
I agree with the previous posting - a Diplom... is a Master's degree.
My academic title is Diplom-Dolmetscher, and for purposes of equating it to a US academic degree, I say that I have a Masters degree (M.A.) in Conference Interpreting.

Schäfer, Wirtschaftswörterbuch, 6th ed., also lists Masters.
A PhD would be Dr. rer. nat. - you're being overly generous to Frau Kloppenburg ;-)
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Summary of answers provided
naCertified Chemist, Master's Degree in ChemistryHelga Trinsey
naM.S. in Chemistry [Diplom-Chemist]
Dierk Seeburg
nachemist with university diplomaNancy Schmeing
naM.Sc. (Chemistry)Ulrike Lieder
naMaster's degree
Stefan Kreisher


  

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35 mins
Master's degree


Explanation:
According to Eurodicautom, "Diplom-" is either a master's or bachelor's degree. Knowing both educational systems, I would lean towards a Master's. If you want, you can kind of dance around the issue by saying that she earned an advanced degree, or that she is a graduate chemist, or a certified chemist. It is not a Ph.D., however. Then there would be mention of "Doktor" or "Dissertation" or "Promovierung" in there somewhere.

Stefan Kreisher
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1 hr
M.Sc. (Chemistry)


Explanation:
I agree with the previous posting - a Diplom... is a Master's degree.
My academic title is Diplom-Dolmetscher, and for purposes of equating it to a US academic degree, I say that I have a Masters degree (M.A.) in Conference Interpreting.

Schäfer, Wirtschaftswörterbuch, 6th ed., also lists Masters.
A PhD would be Dr. rer. nat. - you're being overly generous to Frau Kloppenburg ;-)

Ulrike Lieder
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2 hrs
chemist with university diploma


Explanation:
Neither batchelor's nor master's is equivalent. This is the first level at which you graduate, as in batchelor's. It requires more knowledge than most (but not all) batchelor's degrees, and a thesis, as with a master's (and some batchelor's). A university diploma will let the firm know that the person has finished university. If they know the German system they will understand what it is.

Nancy Schmeing
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2 hrs
M.S. in Chemistry [Diplom-Chemist]


Explanation:
A Ph.D. is not equivalent to a Diplom, rather a Ph.D. is a doctorate degree for which there are equivalents in many, if not most countries: they usually just go by a different name, e.g. Ph.D., Doktor, etc.

So, a Master's degree is roughly equivalent to a Diplom. When I considered obtaining a German Diplom I was assured that my American Master's degree would be recognized by a German university (after taking a couple of final exams). Often times, since those degrees are not quite equivalent, they are sometimes not translated at all or the original name of the degree is added in parentheses.

In conclusion, the translation could read:"Frau Kloppenburg passed her Master's exam in Chemistry" and "Based on this performance she was awarded the degree of Master in Chemistry [Diplom-Chemikerin].

Cheerio,
Dierk

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11 hrs
Certified Chemist, Master's Degree in Chemistry


Explanation:
My Father was a Diplomingenieur, he worked for an American Company and was considered a certified engineer or having a Master's Degree in Engineering. I agree with the translation by Dierk.

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