gleichlautendes Verb
English translation: participles of a correspondent verb
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| 5 +1 | homophonic |
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| 4 +1 | participle forms |
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| 3 +1 | which are written like the infinitive |
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| 4 | homonymous verb |
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| 4 | participles formed by 'ge' + infinitive |
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| 4 | participles of an homonymous verb(?) |
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33 mins confidence: 
peer agreement (net): +1
peer agreement (net): +1which are written like the infinitive Explanation: This might mean that both laufend and gelaufen are omitted but that gegessen and getrunken are in, since there are no alterations in the infinitive apart from the addition of standard elements. I take gleichlautend in the sense of "identical". |
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40 mins confidence:
homonymous verb Explanation: homonym = a word identical with another in pronounciation, but differing from it in spelling and meaning (Webster's). This might not be understood by non-experts, but the translation of "gleichlautend" (identical) would be misleading in this instance, I think. Webster's Comprehensive Dictionary Oxfor Duden |
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43 mins confidence:
participles formed by 'ge' + infinitive Explanation: Das kann vielleicht gemeint sein. Partizipien sind ja im Deutschen nie gleichlautend mit dem Verb (Nennform). Ich denke hier z.B. an sehen - gesehen lesen - gelesen fahren - gefahren wachsen - gewachsen. Eigentlich fallen mir dazu so wenig Beispiele ein, dass es gar keinen Sinn mehr macht! HTH ;o) |
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1 hr confidence: peer agreement (net): +1
peer agreement (net): +1participle forms Explanation: As far as I can see, it means the participle forms of the (identical) verb, so if they've already got 'laufen', they'll delete 'laufend', 'gelaufen' ... Presumably, if they've got participle forms when no verb is included (e.g. gleichlautend(!) - no verb gleichlauten) - they can stay. That's how I'd read it anyway! HTH Mary |
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1 hr confidence:
participles of an homonymous verb(?) Explanation: hi Tom! These are just my (tropical) musings on Alexander's answer above. I too automatically translated your phrase to 'participles of homonymous verbs' but was hard pressed to find examples in German. I found some examples in French though: 1) Homonymy is one of the pitfalls in machine translation so input sentences are tagged with indicators of suffixes, prefixes, word divisions, phrase/clause boudaries. For example, the noun cónvict and its homonymous verb convíct are categorized so that the target text comes out correct. 2) Homonymous verb forms (e.g., il peignait, from peigner , "to comb" or peindre , "to paint") are always included under both infinitive entries to avoid confusion but may be omitted for reasons of conciseness. There may be examples in German but nothing comes to mind right now. 3) The OED considers English homonymic verbs and nouns as separate entries (e.g., fill, tip, etc.). However, this is not the case in German: das Treffen comes after the verb 'treffen' under the same entry. In this case, your phrase seems to make sense: the participle (infinitive?) of homonymic verbs are omitted. 4) I don't think that what is meant here are the ge- particles of German verbs since they are never included as separate dictionary entries under any circumstance. I also don't think that gleichlautend means 'identical' in this case (what is an 'identical verb'?). Just my two centavos. Regards from the tropics and congratulations on the new 'entry' in your family! ;-) M |
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14 hrs confidence: peer agreement (net): +1
peer agreement (net): +1homophonic Explanation: This is a jargon term in linguistics corresponding to "homophonic" (literally, "same-sound") in English. ATA Accredited Ph.C. in linguistics |
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