KudoZ home » German to English » Agriculture

Fruit production terms

English translation: (A) mechanical tool for thinning blossoms; (C) row mulcher, orchard mulcher

Advertisement

Login or register (free and only takes a few minutes) to participate in this question.

You will also have access to many other tools and opportunities designed for those who have language-related jobs
(or are passionate about them). Participation is free and the site has a strict confidentiality policy.
07:26 Sep 18, 2000
German to English translations [PRO]
Science - Agriculture
German term or phrase: Fruit production terms
Dear all,

I am in the process of translating a text on organic apple production for an
agricultural research institute.

Could anyone help me with the following terms (I'm looking for appropriate
English translations)?

Fadengerät or Fadenausdünngerät (a device used for thinning the blossom)

Tropfsorte (term appears in a varietal description)

Unterstockmulchgerät - is this a mower or a row mulcher that just distributes
mulch? Is there an English term?

What is the English name for Grapholita lobarzewski (Fruchtwickler)?

Many thanks.

Ute
Dipl. Ing. (TU) Ute Bohnsack
Ireland
Local time: 09:33
English translation:(A) mechanical tool for thinning blossoms; (C) row mulcher, orchard mulcher
Explanation:
(A) Fadengerät, Fadenausdünngerät:
mechanical tool for thinning blossoms

This seems to be a novel device. The translation could be refined depending on its design (snare? filament/thread/cord? line-whacker? etc. You could of course call it a _thread tool_ or _filament tool_, but a more descriptive handle would fly better in English.)

>>Ausdünnwirkung von Fadengerät und Seife: -- In teils gemeinsam mit der Eidg. Forschungsanstalt Wädenswil durchgeführten Ausdünnversuchen liess sich zeigen, dass das Ausdünnen mit der FADENMASCHINE bei Bäumen mit kurzem, flachem Fruchtholz (&AUML;ste ragen nicht weiter als 5070 cm in Richtung Fahrgasse) zum Zeitpunkt des Mausohrstadiums eine gute Wirkung erzielt. <<
http://www.fibl.ch/aktiv/nup/1996/nup96.html#ausduennen If you must, contact:
http://www.admin.ch/sar/scripts/get.pl?faw index_d.html 0 90... more specifically here: “Fruit thinning in the organic apple production ---We test different biological spray products but also a MECHANIC TOOL and different physiological [sic] hand thinning methods.---Franco Weibel, Andi Schmid”

[headline >>Organic stone fruit thinning still difficult<< (no Fadengerät here -- but they tried everything else!)
http://www.goodfruit.com/archive/May1-97/feature4.html

Thinning (chemical:)
http://www.hort.vt.edu/graduate/daward2/thinning.htm
Organic URLs:
http://www.gov.on.ca/OMAFRA/english/crops/facts/98-029.htm#W...

(((An initial, cursory review of some (sort-of ) plausible English terms had yielded nothing relevant, but a measure of entertainment. AltaVista (English: ) \\\"thinning device\\\" \\\"thinning machine\\\" \\\"thread thinner\\\" \\\"filament thinner\\\" \\\"wire thinner\\\" 92 pages found ; word count: filament thinner: 2; thinning device: 6; thread thinner: 14; thinning machine: 35; wire thinner: 78 -- e.g.:
>> 913. Vision - The Lord showed me a long thin copper wires [sic] coming from Heaven. ... Vision given to Raymond Aguilera on 29 May 1996 at 8:30 PM<< URL: www.transbay.net/prophecy/913pro.htm <<
>> Mr Showbiz News: News Feature: Insects Discover Acting Isn\\\'t Bliss
June 3, 1997:<<
URL: mrshowbiz.go.com/news/Todays_Stories/970...97_25bliss.html )))

(B) Tropfsorte
This could perhaps benefit from more context. I found nothing in German, even on a Web site about syrup that included Apfelsaft. ---
In AltaVista (English: ) +apple +rootstock +varieties 1,462 pages found ----
+apple +rootstock +varieties +drop 185 pages found;----
- a cursurory review of some indicates that, in English *drop/s* in the context of apple growing refers to the Isaac Newton phenomenon.

(C) Unterstockmulchgerät (in this context:)
row mulcher, Millcreek Row Mulcher, orchard mulcher -- more generally: mulcher or mulch spreader

Strictly speaking, an Unterstockmulchgerät appears to apply to viticulture, where it is used to spread mulch UNDER the vines. In orchard management (and berry growing) --including organic -- mulching is used between the trees/plants. I don’t see any references in the context of orchards to spreading mulch UNDER the trunks, rootstocks or whatever.

Mulchgerät: mulcher, mulching device
Stock : rootstock (or, sometimes, stool-bed)
most often used to denote (a) variety/varieties of trees, as in
rootstocks (varieties of apple trees):
http://www.sln.potsdam.ny.us/apples.html
http://www.orchardproject.org/WhichCame.htm
>>Rootstocks - sometimes called \\\"stool beds”<<
http://nysaes.cornell.edu/pubs/press/foxes.html

orchard mulcher
http://farrer.agric.nsw.gov.au/natres/organic/o-fruit.htm

mulch spreader, Whatcom and Millcreek row mulchers, lease unit available for Millcreek mulcher
http://www.oescoinc.com/webcat/price_list_equipment.html
http://www.smartwine.com/wbm/1997/9707/bmg9763.txt
http://www.millcreekmfg.com/about.cfm
http://www2.ag.ohio-state.edu/~ipm/fruit/icm3.htm
http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/fruitover.html
>>… Millcreek Row Mulcher, which automates application of mulch and compost to field-grown and nursery container stock…<<

Use Of Mulches And Herbicides In An Apple Orchard
http://www.hortnet.co.nz/publications/nzpps/proceedings/94/9...
http://oberon.ark.com/~innersea/planting.htm
http://www.mofga.org/mofdec09.htm

(viticulture:) “under-vine mulching” ; Unterstockpflege, Mulch-Unterstockkombination
http://www.dainet.de:8080/AGFORBMLSTW/DDW?W=STICHWORT INC 'u...
http://www.landwirtschaft-mlr.baden-wuerttemberg.de/la/lvwo/...
slasher/mulcher (vines)
>> Slasher/mulcher. Consider side throw units which lay mulch under vines.<<
http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/dpinotes/hortic/deciduous/h99141.h...
mucher (between fruit trees)
http://arc.govt.nz/cp/casestudies/content/a0115_2cs.htm|
http://www.margaret-river-online.com.au/bacchus/

(D) G. lobarzewski (Fruchtwickler): see my prior answer, for what it’s worth.

All the best from Wild Wonderful West Virginia.

Selected response from:

Tom Funke
Local time: 04:33
Grading comment
Thank you, Tom, for your detailed comments.
Grapholita lobarzewski, syn Laspeyresia lobarzewski does indeed not seem to have a vernacular English name. It is not the Codling moth!
For the Faden(ausdünn)gerät I used the German name in quotation marks and italics and added the description " mechanical tool for thinning blossoms " as per your suggestion.
Tropfsorte remains unclear.
Unterstockmulchgerät also remains as not 100% solved. I used 'mulch spreader' and made it clear in the sentence that the machine must be able to spread mulch UNDER the trees, not ust in the aisles.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

Advertisement


Summary of answers provided
na(A) mechanical tool for thinning blossoms; (C) row mulcher, orchard mulcher
Tom Funke
naCodling moth (?)
Tom Funke


  

Answers


4 hrs
Codling moth (?)


Explanation:
Codling moth (?)

These terms of yours are elusive. I found nothing relevant in my dictionaries. So I decided to concentrated on Grapholita lobarzewski (only 2 hits (any language) on AltaVista. The 'Namensgebung' is somewhat confusing, so please check some of these out before using.


(A) "grapholita lobarzewski"
AltaVista: only 2 pages found (1 of these unavailable)
>>petite tordeuse des fruits Kleiner Fruchtwickler Grapholita lobarzewski tordeuses<<
http://193.5.216.31/sar/faw/PSMV_f/pb_vzser.htm
Perhaps named after polish scientist Jerzy Lobarzewski, whose name keeps popping up in related contexts.

(B) According to this URL, there is no common American name.
http://www.pherobank.com/en/sales/pherolist.html

But

(C) According to the following URLs (looked up in series) an apparently more common name is Laspeyresia [= Cydia] pomonella = codling moth

Apfelwickler Fachhochschule Weihenstephan, Institut für Botanik und Pflanzenschutz Deutschland Deutsch
Beschreibung des Apfelwicklers Laspeyresia [= Cydia] pomonella und dessen Schadbild
http://www.dainet.de/dain/dainadk/gartenbau_obstbau_insgesam...
http://www.fh-weihenstephan.de/va/bot_ps/merkblat/apfelwic.h...
http://203.97.170.4/MAFnet/publications/9596scrs/9596sc13.ht...
AltaVista: +laspeyresia +apple : 48 pages found



(D) There is a good bit of information on biological classification:

Tortricoidea Tortricidae - Wickler


Beispiele
· Tortrix viridana - Eichenwickler · Rhyacionia buoliana - Kieferntriebwickler · Laspeyresia pactolana - Fichtenrindenwickler · Retinia (=Petrova) resinella - Kiefernharztriebwickler
http://www.forst.tu-muenchen.de/EXT/LST/ZOOLO/HEITLAND/DETIN...

http://www.forst.tu-muenchen.de/EXT/LST/ZOOLO/HEITLAND/DETIN...

(D) and on pest control in this context (including organic):

+"apple production" +pests 521 pages found
http://orchard.uvm.edu/uvmapple/pest/default.html

Organic Pest Management
http://orchard.uvm.edu/uvmapple/pest/default.html#Organic Pest Management

tortricoidea 30 pages found


AltaVista >>+grapholita +apple<< 58 pages found
Tortricidae Codling moth Cydia pomonella (Linnaeus)
Tortricidae Lightbrown apple moth Epiphyas postvittana (Walker)
Tortricidae Oriental fruit moth Grapholita molesta (Busck)

http://farrer.agric.nsw.gov.au/Hort/ascu/zeck/lepidop.htm
http://www.nature.nps.gov/nrbib/G.HTM

also known as Laspeyresia lobarzewski
http://www.cplscientific.co.uk/press/wda/S14/Tindex.htm

http://www.agrobiologicals.com/home.html
PS I already sent this answer hours ago but it hasn’t shown up on ProZ, so I’m sending it again.

GG (Gotta go) :) Tom





    see above
Tom Funke
Local time: 04:33
Native speaker of: English
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

14 hrs
(A) mechanical tool for thinning blossoms; (C) row mulcher, orchard mulcher


Explanation:
(A) Fadengerät, Fadenausdünngerät:
mechanical tool for thinning blossoms

This seems to be a novel device. The translation could be refined depending on its design (snare? filament/thread/cord? line-whacker? etc. You could of course call it a _thread tool_ or _filament tool_, but a more descriptive handle would fly better in English.)

>>Ausdünnwirkung von Fadengerät und Seife: -- In teils gemeinsam mit der Eidg. Forschungsanstalt Wädenswil durchgeführten Ausdünnversuchen liess sich zeigen, dass das Ausdünnen mit der FADENMASCHINE bei Bäumen mit kurzem, flachem Fruchtholz (&AUML;ste ragen nicht weiter als 5070 cm in Richtung Fahrgasse) zum Zeitpunkt des Mausohrstadiums eine gute Wirkung erzielt. <<
http://www.fibl.ch/aktiv/nup/1996/nup96.html#ausduennen If you must, contact:
http://www.admin.ch/sar/scripts/get.pl?faw index_d.html 0 90... more specifically here: “Fruit thinning in the organic apple production ---We test different biological spray products but also a MECHANIC TOOL and different physiological [sic] hand thinning methods.---Franco Weibel, Andi Schmid”

[headline >>Organic stone fruit thinning still difficult<< (no Fadengerät here -- but they tried everything else!)
http://www.goodfruit.com/archive/May1-97/feature4.html

Thinning (chemical:)
http://www.hort.vt.edu/graduate/daward2/thinning.htm
Organic URLs:
http://www.gov.on.ca/OMAFRA/english/crops/facts/98-029.htm#W...

(((An initial, cursory review of some (sort-of ) plausible English terms had yielded nothing relevant, but a measure of entertainment. AltaVista (English: ) \\\"thinning device\\\" \\\"thinning machine\\\" \\\"thread thinner\\\" \\\"filament thinner\\\" \\\"wire thinner\\\" 92 pages found ; word count: filament thinner: 2; thinning device: 6; thread thinner: 14; thinning machine: 35; wire thinner: 78 -- e.g.:
>> 913. Vision - The Lord showed me a long thin copper wires [sic] coming from Heaven. ... Vision given to Raymond Aguilera on 29 May 1996 at 8:30 PM<< URL: www.transbay.net/prophecy/913pro.htm <<
>> Mr Showbiz News: News Feature: Insects Discover Acting Isn\\\'t Bliss
June 3, 1997:<<
URL: mrshowbiz.go.com/news/Todays_Stories/970...97_25bliss.html )))

(B) Tropfsorte
This could perhaps benefit from more context. I found nothing in German, even on a Web site about syrup that included Apfelsaft. ---
In AltaVista (English: ) +apple +rootstock +varieties 1,462 pages found ----
+apple +rootstock +varieties +drop 185 pages found;----
- a cursurory review of some indicates that, in English *drop/s* in the context of apple growing refers to the Isaac Newton phenomenon.

(C) Unterstockmulchgerät (in this context:)
row mulcher, Millcreek Row Mulcher, orchard mulcher -- more generally: mulcher or mulch spreader

Strictly speaking, an Unterstockmulchgerät appears to apply to viticulture, where it is used to spread mulch UNDER the vines. In orchard management (and berry growing) --including organic -- mulching is used between the trees/plants. I don’t see any references in the context of orchards to spreading mulch UNDER the trunks, rootstocks or whatever.

Mulchgerät: mulcher, mulching device
Stock : rootstock (or, sometimes, stool-bed)
most often used to denote (a) variety/varieties of trees, as in
rootstocks (varieties of apple trees):
http://www.sln.potsdam.ny.us/apples.html
http://www.orchardproject.org/WhichCame.htm
>>Rootstocks - sometimes called \\\"stool beds”<<
http://nysaes.cornell.edu/pubs/press/foxes.html

orchard mulcher
http://farrer.agric.nsw.gov.au/natres/organic/o-fruit.htm

mulch spreader, Whatcom and Millcreek row mulchers, lease unit available for Millcreek mulcher
http://www.oescoinc.com/webcat/price_list_equipment.html
http://www.smartwine.com/wbm/1997/9707/bmg9763.txt
http://www.millcreekmfg.com/about.cfm
http://www2.ag.ohio-state.edu/~ipm/fruit/icm3.htm
http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/fruitover.html
>>… Millcreek Row Mulcher, which automates application of mulch and compost to field-grown and nursery container stock…<<

Use Of Mulches And Herbicides In An Apple Orchard
http://www.hortnet.co.nz/publications/nzpps/proceedings/94/9...
http://oberon.ark.com/~innersea/planting.htm
http://www.mofga.org/mofdec09.htm

(viticulture:) “under-vine mulching” ; Unterstockpflege, Mulch-Unterstockkombination
http://www.dainet.de:8080/AGFORBMLSTW/DDW?W=STICHWORT INC 'u...
http://www.landwirtschaft-mlr.baden-wuerttemberg.de/la/lvwo/...
slasher/mulcher (vines)
>> Slasher/mulcher. Consider side throw units which lay mulch under vines.<<
http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/dpinotes/hortic/deciduous/h99141.h...
mucher (between fruit trees)
http://arc.govt.nz/cp/casestudies/content/a0115_2cs.htm|
http://www.margaret-river-online.com.au/bacchus/

(D) G. lobarzewski (Fruchtwickler): see my prior answer, for what it’s worth.

All the best from Wild Wonderful West Virginia.




    see above
Tom Funke
Local time: 04:33
Native speaker of: English
Grading comment
Thank you, Tom, for your detailed comments.
Grapholita lobarzewski, syn Laspeyresia lobarzewski does indeed not seem to have a vernacular English name. It is not the Codling moth!
For the Faden(ausdünn)gerät I used the German name in quotation marks and italics and added the description " mechanical tool for thinning blossoms " as per your suggestion.
Tropfsorte remains unclear.
Unterstockmulchgerät also remains as not 100% solved. I used 'mulch spreader' and made it clear in the sentence that the machine must be able to spread mulch UNDER the trees, not ust in the aisles.
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)




Return to KudoZ list


KudoZ™ translation help
The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.



See also:



Term search
  • All of ProZ.com
  • Term search
  • Jobs
  • Forums
  • Multiple search