ford.

English translation: phrase

13:18 Feb 2, 2012

Hungarian to English translations [PRO]
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Hungarian term or phrase: ford.

Dear forum,

I can't make out what ford. stands for here.

Context
(Form with details about a conviction)
Buncselekmeny: 188. § 1. BEK. 1 FORD. UTKOZO, 1 BEK. SZERINT MINOSULO: ITTAS ALLAPOTBAN ELKOVETETT KOZUTI JARMUVEZETES VETSEGE

I considered 'Ford utkozo' meaning 'Ford bumper', but I rather think 'ford.' is an abbrevation of something. Might it be 'fordulat'? How is that translated?

Thanks!
Jilt

Jilt KudoZ activity Questions: 994 (5 open) (9 without valid answers) (17 closed without grading) Answers: 0 Netherlands
Local time: 06:44

English translation:phrase

Explanation:
Its a legal term, often seen in EU documents,
e.g.
az 1. cikk d) pontjának első albekezdésében a "Szerződés 92. és 93. cikke értelmében vett állami támogatás" fordulat helyébe az "EGT-megállapodás 61. és 62. cikke értelmében vett állami támogatás" fordulat lép;
in Article 1 (d), first subparagraph, the phrase "State aid within the meaning of Articles 92 and 93 of the Treaty" shall read "State aid within the meaning of Articles 61 and 62 of the EEA Agreement";

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sorry: instead of its It's

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ford. = abbreviation of 'fordulat' which means 'phrase'

Selected response from:

Krisztina Lelik
Greece
Local time: 07:44

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Summary of answers provided

5 +2

phrase

Krisztina Lelik

5 +1

fordulat, see below

juvera

subsection

Laszlo SZABO

Discussion entries: 5

Answers

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

phrase

Krisztina Lelik
Greece
Local time: 07:44
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Hungarian
PRO pts in category: 20

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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

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Katalin Horváth McClure: Épp most akartam feltenni válaszként. Itt a ford. a fordulat rövidítése, törvényekre bekezdéseinek részeire való hivatkozáskor is használják. Lásd pl. www.police.hu/data/cms889752/oktatasi_anyag.doc

4 mins

neutral

Ildiko Santana: I believe the explanation is correct but the translation is not. This is called an "indent" in English, as Judit was explaining below.

2 hrs

-> sorry, but I don't find the word "indent" anywhere in juveara's answer. Anyway indent = francia bekezdés. Mindig a behúzott rész az indent. Lásd http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indent

agree

Andras Mohay (X): Az idézett példa ROSSZ (jelentése OTT: szövegrész, kitétel), de a javasolt kifejezés valóban a HU "ford." egyik lehetséges EN ekvivalense. " - A mieink s a görögök fordítói Luxemburgban ülnek, nem Brüsszelben

7 hrs

-> már megint beleestem a brüsszeli fordítók csapdájába ezek szerint

2 hrs confidence:

subsection

Explanation:
The term "ford" here means "fordulat". It corresponds to the term "subsection" in Anglo-Saxon legislation, although in different structures it may be named otherwise, as described here:

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/en/techleg/15.htm

The term is "<name of misdemour> in violation of Article 188 (1) (1), and classified as such in accordance with paragraph (1)"

Laszlo SZABO
Hungary
Local time: 06:44
Works in field
Native speaker of: Hungarian
PRO pts in category: 8

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

fordulat, see below

Explanation:
Denotes the line in a list starting with a dash:
- first
- second
- third
- fourth
etc.
In the above text 1 FORD means the first line of the list in this format.

(2) bek. első fordulat. 3Ütv. 31. § (2) bek. második fordulat. 4Legfelsőbb Bíróság Pf. V. 20425/1998....
www.pmuk.hu/tart/szabalyzat/ajanl12007.htmlCached

..vétsége (Estk.329fB.§ (l) bek. I. fordulat) miatt 30 (harminc) napi közérdekü munkát szab ki. A bíróság... gergihalo.hu/e_files/downloads/itelet.pdf

(1) bek. II. fordulat]. A városi bíróság a terheltet... www.lb.hu/elvhat/eb000899.htmlCached

As in:
KRESZ 4.§ (3). reference to: KRESZ 26.§ (1) bek., a) pont IV. ford.].
See:
26. § (1) Az egyes járművekkel legfeljebb a következő sebességgel szabad közlekedni:
a) személygépkocsival, motorkerékpárral, 2500 kg megengedett legnagyobb össztömeget meg nem haladó gépkocsival
- autópályán 130 km/óra,
- autóúton 110 km/óra,
- lakott területen kívül egyéb úton 90 km/óra,
- lakott területen 50 km/óra,

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Well, I spent too much time on finding examples... :-(

juvera
Local time: 05:44
Native speaker of:

Hungarian
PRO pts in category: 70

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