antipasto di mare / antipasto di terra

English translation: seafood/earthfood

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Italian term or phrase:	antipasto di mare / antipasto di terra
English translation:	seafood/earthfood
Entered by:	Tom in London

10:05 Sep 24, 2010

Italian to English translations [PRO]
Food & Drink / Restaurant menu

Italian term or phrase: antipasto di mare / antipasto di terra

As for antipasto di mare I don't think I have any problems, suggestions are welcome anyway.

Antipasto di terra is more puzzling as it does not include meat only but also cheese, vegetables and anything else except seafood.

TIA

cynthiatesser KudoZ activity Questions: 451 (3 open) (51 closed without grading) Answers: 2435 Italy
Local time: 20:02

seafood/earthfood

Explanation:
well, try this.

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Note added at 16 mins (2010-09-24 10:21:52 GMT)
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(add "hors d'oeuvres" of course)

Selected response from:

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:02

Grading comment

Even though Earthfood doesn't seem to be standard English, I think it reflects the spirit of the menu. My outsourcer is an Englishman, if he doesn't like it, he'll remove it as he did with my "Americanisms" before. :-) Thank you!
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Summary of answers provided

4 +3

seafood appetizer/mixed appetizer

Fiorsam

4 +2

leave it in Italian

philgoddard

4 +1

seafood/earthfood

Tom in London

Antipasti: from the sea / from the land

David Turnbull

seafood appetizers / local appetizers

potra

choice of surf or turf antipasto

Susanna Garcia

seafood hors d'oeuvres /hors d'oeuvres

Irene Argenti

sea hors d'œuvre/land hors d'œuvre

Lucrezia Amedeo

sea fare / land fare

Kelly Gill

1 +1

aquatizers / agritizers

Mr Murray (X)

Summary of reference entries provided

antipasto di terra

Rachel Fell

Discussion entries: 9

Answers

15 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

seafood/earthfood

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:02
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 76

Grading comment

16 mins confidence:

choice of surf or turf antipasto

Explanation:
A possibility?

Susanna Garcia
Local time: 19:02
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8

Notes to answerer

Asker: Not here, I'm afraid. "Antipasto di mare" is followed by a list of seafood hors d'oeuvres and "antipasto di terra" by another list of dishes

42 mins confidence:

seafood hors d'oeuvres /hors d'oeuvres

Explanation:
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Irene Argenti
Italy
Local time: 20:02
Native speaker of: Italian

Notes to answerer

Asker: That's about what I thought I would do in case nothing quite appropriate comes up

1 hr confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

seafood appetizer/mixed appetizer

Explanation:
this is what it would be on a menu in English

Fiorsam
United States
Local time: 14:02
Works in field
Native speaker of: Italian

2 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

aquatizers / agritizers

Explanation:
I doubt it - but if the restaurant's at all avant-garde...maybe.

Mr Murray (X)
Italy
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

3 hrs confidence:

Antipasti: from the sea / from the land

Explanation:
I would do something like this, if the client is ok with you changing the format slightly.

Antipasti
From the sea
- insalata...
- zuppa...
From the land
- minestra...
- misto di...

You see this on some Brit menus. I think it's the most natural looking solution for your situation.

I would leave antipasti in Italian.

Reference: http://www.argentosteakhouse.com/menu.html

David Turnbull
United Kingdom
Local time: 19:02
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 4

4 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +2

leave it in Italian

Explanation:
It would be a real shame to destroy the poetry of the Italian by trying to translate it. Even if people had no idea what the two phrases meant (which is unlikely - I would have thought most reasonably educated people would have an idea of what "di mare" and "di terra"mean), each heading has four dishes underneath to explain what it means. And they could always ask the waiter.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 32

4 hrs confidence:

seafood appetizers / local appetizers

Explanation:
This is a had one indeed, but since your menu contains 'fonduta alla grappa' and 'Culatello di zibello' this seems to be regional northern Italian recipes, so maybe 'local appetizers' could work for your context.

potra
United States
Local time: 14:02
Native speaker of:

Italian,

English
PRO pts in category: 12

6 hrs confidence:

sea hors d'œuvre/land hors d'œuvre

Explanation:
; )

Lucrezia Amedeo
Italy
Local time: 20:02
Native speaker of:

Italian
PRO pts in category: 2

8 hrs confidence:

sea fare / land fare

Explanation:
sea fare / land fare appetizers

Usually restaurants put the English translation under the Italian version so you get the antipasto on top and if people don't know what an "antipasto" is they can look at the English translation below.

Believe it or not but not everyone knows what "antipasto" "tagliatelli" "parmigiano reggiano" etc. is and maybe they feel stupid to ask so I think it is a good idea to spell it out as best you can in English.

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Note added at 8 hrs (2010-09-24 18:53:01 GMT)
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seafood/ land fare is another possibility

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Note added at 22 hrs (2010-09-25 08:39:45 GMT)
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I use the Italian terms when not translatable and give an as brief as possible explanation, i.e. "culatello di zibello" ham .... exactly!!
I agree 100%.

Kelly Gill
Italy
Local time: 20:02
Native speaker of:

English

Notes to answerer

Asker: Contrary to what others say, I wouldn't be so sure that anyone would know what an antipasto is. In the menu, I use the Italian terms when not translatable and give an as brief as possible explanation, i.e. "culatello di zibello" ham

Reference comments

4 days

Reference: antipasto di terra

Reference information:
It's not uncommon as a term in menus, even in the UK, let alone Italy

antipasto di terra £4.80
goat cheese, salami and olive in aromatic oil, served with garlic pizza
Ordering from Forno
145-147 Lambeth Walk, Lambeth

and antipasto items are sold as such in UK supermarkets, for goodness sake...
London SE11 6EE

http://hungryhouse.co.uk/forno-se11/starters_0/antipasto-di-...

Pani's Café Menu - Newcastle upon Tyne - Tyne and Wear - The ...
The Mobile Food Guide, the UK Restaurant Guide ... antipasto di terra £6.25 Veg selection of mediterranean marinated vegetables mixed with beans, ...
themobilefoodguide.com/select/menu16499.php

Antipasti Platter recipe - Waitrose.com
This magnificent antipasto selection is easy to assemble using the Waitrose range of antipasto, along with other Italian-style ingredients.
www.waitrose.com/recipe/Antipasti_Platter.aspx -

Tesco Finest Antipasto Selection (120g) in Tesco | mySupermarket
Compare Tesco Finest Antipasto Selection (120g) prices & shop online from Tesco using mySupermarket to find the best offers and save money.
www.mysupermarket.co.uk › Meat, Fish & Poultry › Deli Meat

Rachel Fell
United Kingdom
Specializes in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 132

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