Sep 3, 2013 14:22
11 yrs ago
Italian term

che vuoi che gliene freghi a (persona) di

Non-PRO Italian to English Art/Literary General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters Autobiography
Contesto (Casertano is trying to take over another guy's, De Peppo's, government post):

De Peppo mi guardò: "Ne', Giorgio," mi rispose con il suo intercalare mezzo pugliese, "ora si' fesso tu. Che vuoi che gliene freghi a Casertano di quell'imbecille" e con le due mani fece un gesto nella direzione della stanza di Folchetto.

Molte Grazie,

Barbara
Change log

Sep 4, 2013 14:22: Susanna Martoni changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (3): James (Jim) Davis, Rachel Fell, Susanna Martoni

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Proposed translations

+4
8 mins
Selected

you don't think he gives two hoots about that idiot, do you?

Another possibility of many

('he' being Casertano, of course)
Peer comment(s):

agree Barbara Carrara
1 hr
agree Anthony Oliver : This would be my pick of those suggested
6 hrs
agree Elena Zanetti
1 day 2 hrs
agree Cristina Gonzalez
1 day 17 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
8 mins

Why do you think (the person) should care?

il contesto è in dialetto oltre a essere molto informale. Ho scelto una traduzione più generica che letterale.
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+3
12 mins

he doesn't give a damn...

Peer comment(s):

agree texjax DDS PhD
15 mins
Thanks! :-)
agree J Tomkowicz : nice!
1 hr
Thank you!
agree Sabrina Bruna
5 hrs
Grazie Sabrina!
neutral James (Jim) Davis : You haven't translated "che vuoi". If you back translate, into Italian it gets lost. It is the ill-formed language I learned and loved when I first came to Italy many many years ago, along with phrases like Ce l'hai cento lire?
6 hrs
Sorry, I don't understand your ill-formed Italian!
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12 mins

Do you really think they care about that imbecile, around Caserta?

My second attempt (I trashed my earlier one)

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Note added at 13 mins (2013-09-03 14:35:58 GMT)
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I changed my suggestion so as to keep the plural (as in the Italian).
Peer comment(s):

neutral bluenoric : Casertano is very probably a family name...
1 day 17 hrs
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+3
24 mins

why should Casertano care a whit about.....

"care a whit" could also be "give a damn" or be "bothered with" or several other options that might be brought up by others.
The IT construction, which rhetorically addresses the listener party about a third party's opinion of a fourth person can be confusing.
It is my belief that this is the basic meaning of this phrase in English, once the rhetorical figure of speech (che vuoi che), which has no real meaning in English in this context, in my opinion, is removed. Unlike Oliver, I do not feel that the person is actually asking the opinion of the listener but is instead using rhetoric to accentuate the third person's total disregard for the fourth. Nevertheless, Oliver's interpretation is not invalid, just much more literal and could much better fit your view of the translation in its entirety. Mine is merely a suggestion based on my knowledge of the language and its use.
Peer comment(s):

agree Daniela Zambrini
6 hrs
agree bluenoric
2 days 2 hrs
agree Claudia Luque Bedregal
2 days 14 hrs
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26 mins

he couldn't care less

Un'altra opzione. Dipende molto dal registro
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6 hrs

what the hell do you think Casertano cares about that idiot

That is my reflex interpretation
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