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sistema clientelare

English translation: patronage system

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Italian term or phrase:sistema clientelare
English translation:patronage system
Entered by: AC0

14:49 Nov 14, 2008
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Media / Multimedia
Italian term or phrase: sistema clientelare
Il *sistema clientelare* italiano, caratterizzato da scarso rispetto per la professionalita' e scambi di favore, sembra diventare il modello sociologico per eccellenza grazie alle nuove possibilita' di interazione messe a disposizione dalle nuove tecnologie.
AC0
Germany
patronage system
Explanation:
We've all been through this system :-((
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Barbara Toffolon (X)
Italy
Local time: 08:11
Grading comment
Sebbene le altre risposte si riferiscano, a quelle che alcuni casi sono le manifestazioni piu' vistose del sistema clientelare in Italia (cronyism), sono queste delle specifiche incarnazioni del sistema clientelare.

L'utilizzo che se ne fa nella lingua italiana anche per indicare il rapporto
di scambio di favori tra politici ed elettori e' resa solo da "patronage system". Questo termine, inoltre, mantiene, dal punto di vista etimologico, il legame con il rapporto patronus-cliens dell'antica roma da cui la parola "clientelare" ed il sistema stesso deriva.


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Summary of answers provided
4 +2cronyism
JRM (X)
4patronage system
Barbara Toffolon (X)
4"old boy network"
Tom in London


Discussion entries: 2





  

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6 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
patronage system


Explanation:
We've all been through this system :-((

Barbara Toffolon (X)
Italy
Local time: 08:11
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 2
Grading comment
Sebbene le altre risposte si riferiscano, a quelle che alcuni casi sono le manifestazioni piu' vistose del sistema clientelare in Italia (cronyism), sono queste delle specifiche incarnazioni del sistema clientelare.

L'utilizzo che se ne fa nella lingua italiana anche per indicare il rapporto
di scambio di favori tra politici ed elettori e' resa solo da "patronage system". Questo termine, inoltre, mantiene, dal punto di vista etimologico, il legame con il rapporto patronus-cliens dell'antica roma da cui la parola "clientelare" ed il sistema stesso deriva.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AeC2009: "in toto"..., ;-((
7 mins
  -> Grascie...troooppo buon lei :)
disagree  Tom in London: I haven't thanks. Anything I've achieved was through merit and merit alone.
13 mins
  -> wow! touchy touchy....
disagree  James (Jim) Davis: My recommendations totally on merit of my work too, thank you.
1 hr
  -> Hey there gentlemen, didn't mean to insinuate anything...my my how touchy.
neutral  Umberto Cassano: Beh, non proprio tutti, direi ! Mi scusi se mi permetto di dissentire su questa sua osservazione.
5 hrs
  -> Ecco un altro... Umberto era solo una battuta.... non intendevo istigare una guerra....
agree  Daniela Furini: comments on the translation itself? noone? i'll have a go. In my opinion, "patronage system" is the right term
1 day 21 hrs
  -> Thank you Daniela... :-)
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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
"old boy network"


Explanation:
... it must be in inverted commas, to work as a translation from Italian because Italy doesn't have schools like Eton, Harrow, Westminster etc. but the idea's the same,

Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 07:11
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 7

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Barbara Toffolon (X): Yeah! Eton - like in "The Saint"...do they use this system?
2 mins
  -> I'm afraid so. The entire Tory front bench in the UK House of Commons all went to Eton.....
neutral  James (Jim) Davis: Its nigh thirty years since I lived in the UK, but the "old boy network" doesn't pervade every nook and cranny of society like "clientelismo" does here. I mean even my dentist wants to know which side I'm on!!! Which scares me to death naturally.
1 hr
  -> ah, but in the UK the old boy network isn't low politics as it is in Italy; it pretends to be more noble than that.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
cronyism


Explanation:
Barbara and Jim's suggestions work just as well. It really depends on personal choice.




    Reference: http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=cronyism&gwp=13
JRM (X)
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in MalteseMaltese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  James (Jim) Davis: and Tom's suggestions, please John, don't mistake me for that Irish gentleman :-)
15 mins
  -> lol! Thanks Jim
agree  _floriana_
23 hrs
  -> Thanks Floriana
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