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Italian to English translations [PRO]
Textiles / Clothing / Fashion
Italian term or phrase: scoccamento
Once again, fifteenth century satin making. I'm having difficulty with the whole first part of the phrase and scoccamento in particular. I understand very broadly what it is but can't find the English word for it:
Armatura di base in raso da 5, scoccamento 2, di 1 colpo 2 colpi, prodotto da ordito in seta rossa e trama in seta gialla.
Isabelle Johnson
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5Step number
Alberto Bertelli
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Sabrina Bruna
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Rachel Fell

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backing-off (see item 6 on p.165 - or 23rd in the file)

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Step number

I found the term in multilingual glossaries, so I first used the French equivalent, décochement because FR>EN combos are easier to find. Then I found the English equivalent on the Canadian government's Termium translation database.
I double checked on the Internet and found the term in the ISO 3572:1976 standard in French and thus easily found its English equivalent in the ISO 3572:1976 standard in English, which was the same as the term provided by Termium.
In addition I did a unilingual research of the term to provide an example.

Example sentence(s):
  • A, B and C show the different types of irregular satins and Figs. D and E show the designs of regular satin. Fig. A shows a 4 end irregular satin constructed by using a step number of 1, while Fig. B show the same satin constructed using step number of 2
  • From the ISO standard: step number; move number The number of picks by which a warp thread interlacing in a weave moves relative to the preceding warp thread.

Alberto Bertelli
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In the company I worked several years ago we used to call it "jump" though I can't find it on the internet just now.

Note added at 51 min (2014-08-21 15:20:17 GMT)

It was a textile trade agency.

Sabrina Bruna
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Asker: Thanks that is useful. I can see that used now that you mention it on the web but the more technical term seems to be 'floating'. The problem is that I can't be absolutely sure that it is the same thing as scoccamento.

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found this as a definition:
la distanza calcolata tra due punti di legatura che cadono sul filo di trama o sul filo di ordito successivi a quello preso come inizio, per cui la distanza viene misurata sempre secondo una linea diagonale. (industria tessil...

This document translates it as "progressive number", which doesn't sound very 15th C ;-) -

here it sounds like "jump" -

Rachel Fell
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Asker: Thanks very much for this Rachel. I'll have a proper look tomorrow. The problem is that I can't find jump in descriptions of this process although the concept in Italian is clear. I've found float in some texts but am not totally sure that it is the same process.

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